The Plural of Grief

melville · Post by **melville** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:23 am

Looking at these(sorry, big pix-click to see all):

Any knowledge out there? I'm kinda itching to polish that big slab of Alu that is the front bit of the frame.

Zombie Master · Post by **Zombie Master** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:39 pm

Looks like the tank is welded to the frame....run away!

Chuey · Post by **Chuey** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 3:35 pm

Pics of two different bikes and a question that sounds like it's about one bike.

Chuey

Sibbo · Post by **Sibbo** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:26 pm

Villiers 2 stroke, leading link forks ? a cast ally headstock ! ???? No idea ! A special?

Garnet · Post by **Garnet** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:16 pm

That's an early 60's Grieves. Built in Bristol England I believe. Very popular privateers scrambles machine.

Garnet · Post by **Garnet** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:28 pm

Actually, it looks like it might be a trials version (right clicky)

Or you could do this with it.

melville · Post by **melville** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:17 pm

One (blue tank) is a trials model, the other is a scrambler. 1965ish. Both 250cc Villiers, but different models. Both have Greeves exclusive barrels and heads.

The trials bike has run in the last decade. The scrambler has been silent for quite some time.

I'm waiting for his need to sell and my need to buy to align at a price. We're presently distant. He's about to lose his shop space (selling home) and he'll come to my price eventually.

ZM, the tank appears to have a flange extending out the front, and the weld you see is the body of the tank to the flange, I think.

I have great fantasies of making the scrambler into a Grumph or a Greebsa, but will more likely be doing a slow fix 'n' flip of both bikes.

Sibbo · Post by **Sibbo** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:19 pm

Garnet wrote:That's an early 60's Grieves. Built in Bristol England I believe. Very popular privateers scrambles machine.

Oops ! A blank spot ! Geeves.

She'llbe · Post by **She'llbe** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:40 pm

Garnet wrote:Actually, it looks like it might be a trials version (right clicky)

Or you could do this with it.

I see the in the first photo of the Greeves that it doesn't have a headlight but it does have a horn.

Major Softie · Post by **Major Softie** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:11 pm

Greeves was going to be my guess too, but only because it's the only two stroke dirt bike of that period that I'm familiar with that I know had an Earle's fork.

So, is that Villiers before they got sucked up by Norton?

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