Been putting this off...input spline

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My buddy, who rides one of those oil head things dropped off a spray can.

http://www.lpslabs.com/product-details/570

He says:
The drive shaft splines were coated and in service on my last GS . . .probably 50k worth. Whenever I removed that drive shaft or separated the rear end of the drive shaft to service the rear drive, the coating was at least 95%+ still there, and after removing the grease, it was super easy to clean with solvent and no dirt stuck to the spline. Using the solvent did remove a bit more of the spray coating, but there was still 80%+ on there before I re-sprayed it.
Look! I don't want to start a major melt down here. I know this is as bad as an oil thread. But am I going to hell if I spray this stuff on me spline before greasing with 65% molly grease. DON'T HOLD BACK! We could be breaking new ground with this spray. Think of the ripples through the entire Airhead community. :o My buddy says this spray is like a molly paint. I wonder what Duane would think. :evil:
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templetommy wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:57 pm have fun Neil I do mine every 10k on my /5 and do not remove the rear hardware but it is like working on a small car with big hands so next time I will do it Charlies way get to check out all to be sure. Im retired now so next time your make it down this way I can show you some of my favorite roads. Ride Safe
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Sounds good Tom. How's Paso doing? I guess you moved, but I liked Paso. You must be near Slo now. I could ride that #33 again. Think I will! :D
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What if the wrench extension is rotated 90 degrees? Or 45 degrees? ;) The equations don't cover that. With a some blue Loctite, a rag in the palm of your hand, a good grunt on the tool kit wrench is really all that's needed. Don't need no stinkin' torque wrench!!

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Kurt in S.A. wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:30 am What if the wrench extension is rotated 90 degrees? Or 45 degrees? ;) The equations don't cover that. With a some blue Loctite, a rag in the palm of your hand, a good grunt on the tool kit wrench is really all that's needed. Don't need no stinkin' torque wrench!!
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Instead of the toolkit 10/12mm I used an adapter from Snap-On that was 2" long.
I calculated by measuring from the handle centre pin to the centre of the spanner end that goes on the tranny bolt. The normal length of the torque wrench divided by that measured length is used to multiply the required torque value. It was years ago, but I remember tightening to a number on the scale about 90% of that specified in the manual.
That said, I have also done the Loctite/ragonthespanner/GRUNT method successfully.
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Turn the adapter 90 degrees to the shaft of the torque wrench and there's no adjustment to the wrench readings.

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Kurt in S.A. wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:04 pm Turn the adapter 90 degrees to the shaft of the torque wrench and there's no adjustment to the wrench readings.

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Still has to be a longer lever. Can't see the torque staying the same.
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Snowbum uses a torque wrench for this. He seems to know a thing or two.
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Zombie Master wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:54 pm
Kurt in S.A. wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:04 pm Turn the adapter 90 degrees to the shaft of the torque wrench and there's no adjustment to the wrench readings.

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Still has to be a longer lever. Can't see the torque staying the same.
If you do the math, you'll see that with the angle at 90 degrees, there's no change in torque. Torque is force times the distance. With no angle in the extension, the distance increases, thus the applied torque increases. With the angle at 90 degrees, the distance between the perpendicular line of force through the line of action through the bolt is the same. Check out this page for torque calculations with an option for inputting an angle.

http://www.cncexpo.com/TorqueAdapter.aspx

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Good page! I get that @ 90 degrees the torque should be the same, but would you be able to apply it in the same manner as @ 0 degrees as the wrench has that angle?
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If you had no extension for a given nut/bolt, the torque you read on the dial is "the" torque. If you add an extension and orient the extension at 90 degrees to the shaft of the torque wrench, the torque you read on the dial is "the" torque...ie, the same torque. I'm not saying that such an arrangement can be used in the situation of the driveshaft bolts, but I think there are other situations where having the extension at 90 degrees might let you work around a corner or something.

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