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Re: Starter
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:20 am
by Rob Frankham
Yes, I've often thought about doing just that but the issue hasn't arisen so I haven't got round to it... I think I would probably simply solder join the two ends and add a flying lead to jump to the relay using just one of the '87' terminals. An added advantage would be that you could then use a much cheaper standard accessory relay rather than the more expensive and less available type favoured by BMW.
I think I should clarify that this only applies to /7 and machines up to '84. Monoshock machines have a different arrangement (they do use an accessory type relay). /6 machines have their own rather wierd and wonderful setup and /5 machines have an even wierder and more wonderful system, which includes a circuit to prevent the starter being engaged when the engine is running. It also doesn't apply to R45/R65 machines or the R80G/S. In fact, one could state that a lot simpler by saying that it only applies to '77 to '84 year 247 engined road machines...
Rob
Re: Starter
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:21 pm
by Zombie Master
Thanx for your help. Now the bikes is starting normally. But I haven't taken it out for a ride yet to replicate the situation. Thanx again!
Re: Starter
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:10 am
by ME 109
Starter button might be dodgy.
Does your neutral light work and do you start in neutral without pulling the clutch? If your neutral light doesn't work and you have to pull the clutch to start, your clutch switch might be dodgy.
Re: Starter
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:50 am
by Zombie Master
Well....I went out for a ride and the bike started normally. I had the battery load tested showing full capacity, so I ordered a new starter relay from the BMW dealer at great cost and will change it out prophylactic-ally.
I wonder if there is any servicing on the starter system that I should perform?
Re: Starter
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:53 am
by Zombie Master
ME 109 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:10 am
Starter button might be dodgy.
Does your neutral light work and do you start in neutral without pulling the clutch? If your neutral light doesn't work and you have to pull the clutch to start, your clutch switch might be dodgy.
Neutral light does work and starts without disengaging clutch. I quess a 30+ year old bike might be dodgy.
ZM
Re: Starter
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:56 am
by Rob Frankham
Zombie Master wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:50 am
Well....I went out for a ride and the bike started normally. I had the battery load tested showing full capacity, so I ordered a new starter relay from the BMW dealer at great cost and will change it out prophylactic-ally.
I wonder if there is any servicing on the starter system that I should perform?
If you're looking for 'speculative' items to service, you would do well to examine and clean the solenoid. Arcing at the contacts can cause corrosion/erosion and intermittent problems.
Rob
Re: Starter
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:33 am
by Zombie Master
Rob Frankham wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:56 am
Zombie Master wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:50 am
Well....I went out for a ride and the bike started normally. I had the battery load tested showing full capacity, so I ordered a new starter relay from the BMW dealer at great cost and will change it out prophylactic-ally.
I wonder if there is any servicing on the starter system that I should perform?
If you're looking for 'speculative' items to service, you would do well to examine and clean the solenoid. Arcing at the contacts can cause corrosion/erosion and intermittent problems.
Rob
I'll have a look....thanx
Re: Starter
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:29 am
by Zombie Master
The starter issue has totally stopped being a problem. I did spray the starter button with a corrosion specific lubricant. But I did get a new relay for the starter. I'll probably install it next time I pull the tank.
Thanx for your input