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Re: Oh the horror!

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:24 pm
by Major Softie
Garnet wrote:
justoneoftheguys wrote:
I don't know how I could get mine off for you. I haven't the tools, nor a welder.
Just ship him the whole box, there is nothin good left inside anyway. :P
Kinda expensive shipping for just a flange though :shock:

Re: Oh the horror!

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:43 pm
by Deleted User 287
Garnet wrote:
justoneoftheguys wrote:
I don't know how I could get mine off for you. I haven't the tools, nor a welder.
Just ship him the whole box, there is nothin good left inside anyway. :P
I had this fantasy about shipping it to a mate in the U.K., so they could do the Motobins core exchange for a freshly rebuilt box for $500... (It is a U.K.-only offer)

Re: Oh the horror!

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:22 pm
by Frog
justoneoftheguys wrote:I would HATE having to remember which of the 4 holes used the queer fastener.

I like the idea of replacing the flange.

I don't know how I could get mine off for you. I haven't the tools, nor a welder.
How about.....

1. Bbelt buys an output flange tool (http://www.cycleworks.net/index.php?mai ... cts_id=321) and has it shipped directly to Rob.

2. Rob removes the flange and sends it with the tool to bbelk...$$$?

3. Now bbelk has the tool to remove his....and the replacement flange in hand :D

4. bbelk sells the tool....or keeps it.

What do you think?

Re: Oh the horror!

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:24 pm
by Garnet
I think that would be a well traveled tool. :D

Re: Oh the horror!

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:42 pm
by Deleted User 287
Frog wrote: How about.....

1. Bbelt buys an output flange tool (http://www.cycleworks.net/index.php?mai ... cts_id=321) and has it shipped directly to Rob.

2. Rob removes the flange and sends it with the tool to bbelk...$$$?

3. Now bbelk has the tool to remove his....and the replacement flange in hand :D

4. bbelk sells the tool....or keeps it.

What do you think?
It works for me. It just occurred to me that the $500USD price Motobins offers excludes VAT. And since they don't offer the deal outside the U.K., I would have to pay the VAT... :(

Like I said - fantasy.

Re: Oh the horror!

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:51 pm
by moore84rs
I think the reason for replacing the bolts every time is that the bolts
are interference fit. Meaning, the threads are slightly oversize
and bind (self-lock).

Re: Oh the horror!

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:59 pm
by vanzen
If clearance for a larger screw is an issue,
and I suspect that this may be the case -
I'd then consider a threaded insert ...
but I have an install kit
which would be about the $75 price ticket of a new flange if you had to buy it.

I'll reconsider and go with frog on this one – look for a good used flange.
Send the send trashed one to me.

Re: Oh the horror!

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:59 pm
by Garnet
moore84rs wrote:I think the reason for replacing the bolts every time is that the bolts
are interference fit. Meaning, the threads are slightly oversize
and bind (self-lock).
I only replace the bolts once in a while, but even new bolts turn in by hand. Perhaps all my flanges have been a bit worn. :?

Re: Oh the horror!

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:01 pm
by dougie
moore84rs wrote:I think the reason for replacing the bolts every time is that the bolts
are interference fit. Meaning, the threads are slightly oversize
and bind (self-lock).
Actually I think they are "stretch" bolts like the flywheel bolts.
The proper torque stretches them and that helps keep them in place.

Re: Oh the horror!

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:10 pm
by vanzen
moore84rs wrote:I think the reason for replacing the bolts every time is that the bolts
are interference fit. Meaning, the threads are slightly oversize
and bind (self-lock).
I had always thought that these screws are designed to stretch slightly when properly torqued –
Once installed and stretched, then removed they are theoretically junk
because they do not return to original size,
and further stretching to torque ultimately weakens the fastener.