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Re: Torque RULES! Yeahhhhhh! 336 Bragging time
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:13 am
by vanzen
mattcfish wrote:... None of the lumpy idle, poor low end punch, flat spots and added vibration that I had read about...
With the work done carefully and correctly these things should never be a problem –
Good job, Matt !
Now, about getting out of bed as we used to ...
If only a sport cam and a "rebuild" could solve that problem.
Re: Torque RULES! Yeahhhhhh! 336 Bragging time
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:14 am
by Major Softie
ME 109 wrote:Major Softie wrote: The long slow gradual loss of power is something we just don't notice.
I notice not being able to get out of bed as easy as I used to.
Yeah, but I'll bet there was a lot of deterioration before you noticed.

Re: Torque RULES! Yeahhhhhh! 336 Bragging time
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:53 am
by ME 109
Major Softie wrote:Yeah, but I'll bet there was a lot of deterioration before you noticed.

No way. I banged my head in the same place every morning when the alarm went off.
I don't think I deteriorated, I bought a new bed.
Re: Torque RULES! Yeahhhhhh! 336 Bragging time
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:23 pm
by George Ryals
Matt, it is truly refreshing to hear a report on modifications as told by a person who has actual personal experience with the modifications. THANKS.
Re: Torque RULES! Yeahhhhhh! 336 Bragging time
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:35 pm
by mattcfish
Major Softie wrote:What was the condition of R90 before you did the work? If it was tired, then you are not doing a fair comparison, and don't try to tell me you remember what it was like before it got tired - our brains just don't work that way. The long slow gradual loss of power is something we just don't notice.
If it was running at full stock power before the work, that's different, but the fact is, people VERY seldom do such hop-ups on a fresh motor - at least, in the Airhead world. The Duc people are all crazy: they throw out fresh stock parts all the time

I didn't modify the bike because it was broken. It didn't use oil, compression was over 150Lbs on each side, and it had plenty of pep for an R90, honest. After disassembly I did notice that the crank sprocket was ready for replacement, but no chain slap issues. My main complaint had been pinging and not enough punch while passing on steep uphill grades and the clunky shifting of the old heavy flywheel bikes. Stiffness in my hand on the clutch was another factor. You post 81 bike riders don't know how good you've got it when compared to older heavy clutch pull guys. I'm sure my left forarm is going to start shrinking with this new set up.
Other than that I loved the old motor configuration. It got close to 50mpg with Dellortos.
The ball got rolling when a good used 336 cam fell into my lap for $30.00 and a nice low mile 1983 tranny for less than $150.00. I've always been jealous of bikes with Nikasil barrels, so when I couldn't find an affordable way to make Nikasil 900cc jugs the Siebenrock kit became more and more attractive.
Re: Torque RULES! Yeahhhhhh! 336 Bragging time
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:20 pm
by Deleted User 62
George Ryals wrote:Matt, it is truly refreshing to hear a report on modifications as told by a person who has actual personal experience with the modifications. THANKS.
+1 ...and I wish we still had access to ME109s bottom end rebuild.
Re: Torque RULES! Yeahhhhhh! 336 Bragging time
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:51 pm
by Garnet
Tim Shepherd wrote:George Ryals wrote:Matt, it is truly refreshing to hear a report on modifications as told by a person who has actual personal experience with the modifications. THANKS.
+1 ...and I wish we still had access to ME109s bottom end rebuild.
Actually, I'll pass on Jeff's bottom.

Re: Torque RULES! Yeahhhhhh! 336 Bragging time
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:52 am
by Major Softie
mattcfish wrote:
I didn't modify the bike because it was broken. It didn't use oil, compression was over 150Lbs on each side, and it had plenty of pep for an R90, honest. After disassembly I did notice that the crank sprocket was ready for replacement, but no chain slap issues. My main complaint had been pinging and not enough punch while passing on steep uphill grades and the clunky shifting of the old heavy flywheel bikes. Stiffness in my hand on the clutch was another factor. You post 81 bike riders don't know how good you've got it when compared to older heavy clutch pull guys. I'm sure my left forarm is going to start shrinking with this new set up.
Other than that I loved the old motor configuration. It got close to 50mpg with Dellortos.
The ball got rolling when a good used 336 cam fell into my lap for $30.00 and a nice low mile 1983 tranny for less than $150.00. I've always been jealous of bikes with Nikasil barrels, so when I couldn't find an affordable way to make Nikasil 900cc jugs the Siebenrock kit became more and more attractive.
Sounds good then!
Re: Torque RULES! Yeahhhhhh! 336 Bragging time
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:08 am
by ME 109
Garnet wrote:Actually, I'll pass on Jeff's bottom.

Right, you can come camping with me Garnet.
Re: Torque RULES! Yeahhhhhh! 336 Bragging time
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:11 am
by ME 109
I feel a need to clarify that statement
But I'll only get mesself in
deeper more trouble.