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Re: Michellin pilot activ
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:00 am
by Roy Gavin
They might tell you they have them and quote a come in price, but I cant see them selling a new tire 20% cheaper than the old one.
I just put a set of IRC 310 s on my R75/7, $170- a set in the correct sizes fitted on loose wheels, and they are excellent.
The tread pattern is similar to the old Contis, with a centre centre groove and nice rounded profile front and rear so turn in and stability is good.
The front feels stuck to the road, with a reassuring planted feel, and the back is good too.The tread rubber shows up good under the old thumb nail test, so they should be stick enough.
I only bought them because the previous two dealers didn't actually have the tires that they said they had, and tried to push me into something different, but I have no regrets about buying them - the original plan was to fit Avon Distanzas which list at $370- a set and dont feel any better.
Re: Michellin pilot activ
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:41 am
by Seth
I have the Pilot Activs on a 77RS (spoke wheels), replacing a set of Mac50s. So far, they are pretty good. Only have about 500 miles on them so far, but I'm happy. I don't push the bike as hard as I do my others, so I can't tell you what they're like at full tilt, but so far, no different than the Mac50s. I've been using the BT45Vs on my Mystic for years and like them a lot as well.
Re: Michellin pilot activ
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:41 am
by ME 109
Roy Gavin wrote: $170- a set in the correct sizes fitted on loose wheels, and they are excellent.
Do they charge more for bikes with correct preload?
I wasn't too clear there sorry Roy, the michelins are 140 each. 170 a set is good.
I haven't heard of IRC before?
I've dealt with this Melbourne tyre shop for about 15 years and have discussed the 'coming, coming, coming' new Michelins
For maybe three years!
Many tyres have come 300k in the post from him.
As for the price, maybe the Mac50 was over inflated?
I'll find out in about 5000klm.
Re: Michellin pilot activ
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:51 am
by ME 109
Seth wrote:I have the Pilot Activs on a 77RS (spoke wheels), replacing a set of Mac50s. So far, they are pretty good. Only have about 500 miles on them so far, but I'm happy. I don't push the bike as hard as I do my others, so I can't tell you what they're like at full tilt, but so far, no different than the Mac50s. I've been using the BT45Vs on my Mystic for years and like them a lot as well.
One tyre will tell us what they are like for....us.
I will be happy with the same performance as the Mac.
Re: Michellin pilot activ
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:34 am
by Roy Gavin
I live in the hills but work down the port, so it is easier for me to take my loose wheels into the tyre depot during the week and leave them a couple of days or so while the tires are fitted.
The fitter knocks off $20- a pair if he doesn't have to take the wheels off the bike and fit them while you wait - he is flat chat at the weekend anyway so it wastes half a day riding time if I go in Sat morning anyway.
He had these in stock because the V&V crowd have been buying them instead of Avons since the Oz Avon dealer put the price up over $120- a pair , and they look the part and work at least as well as the alternatives at a bit lower price.
I was a Mac fan, gave up waiting on the replacement, but if I had known that they were available for $260- a set I would probably have tried them out - my last Macs were over $300-.
Re: Michellin pilot activ
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:04 pm
by Major Softie
ME 109 wrote:
I haven't heard of IRC before?
Very big in south-east Asia - Japan too. The company is based in Thailand, but they've got major presences in Vietnam and Japan, probably other places too. They've been around a long time - usually considered a second tier tire, but not junk.
Re: Michellin pilot activ
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:49 pm
by melville
Major Softie wrote:ME 109 wrote:
I haven't heard of IRC before?
Very big in south-east Asia - Japan too. The company is based in Thailand, but they've got major presences in Vietnam and Japan, probably other places too. They've been around a long time - usually considered a second tier tire, but not junk.
Inoue Rubber Company if memory serves. Also a second tier bicycle tire company, a good step above the Korean bicycle tire company Dae Yung.
On the OP's question--I have Pilot Activs on my bike, but only a quarter mile or so of use, powered by a mix of my younger boy and gravity. They're holding up great so far.......
Re: Michellin pilot activ
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:12 pm
by DanielMc
ME 109 wrote:
I found the bt 45 rear to hang on as well as the Mac, but the 45 goes in the same basket as the me77 as far as flattening off.
The last tyre I had was a pirelli sport demon, it hung on ok but it wore very poorly.
I've got BT45s on my '76 R90S and I like them, but I was thinking of fitting a pair of Sport Demons to my '74 bike and would be interested to hear how you think they compare directly with the Bidgestones.
Re: Michellin pilot activ
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:24 pm
by ME 109
DanielMc wrote:
I've got BT45s on my '76 R90S and I like them, but I was thinking of fitting a pair of Sport Demons to my '74 bike and would be interested to hear how you think they compare directly with the Bidgestones.
I'd choose a bt45 rear over a sport demon rear.
Even from new the pirelli rear gave me handling symptoms of a flattening off tyre, being twitchiness at the handle bars.
The pirelli hung on well in the mountains, perhaps as good as the Mac and bt45, but the way the tyre wore was quite strange. One third of the tyre was worn far more than the rest. Re balancing the tyre showed it to be balanced.
It was gone in less than 5000 k's.
I generally always have a 3.25 Lasertec on the front. Maybe there are tyres that don't like being mismatched.
My rear tyre findings are based on 35-36 psi, loaded for touring on long straight roads and mountain roads, and unloaded fun days hunting sports bikes.
All the rears I've run have hung on well, as far as wot accelerating out of second gear hairpins.
For me it's a matter of which tyre retains a nice round (accross the tyre) profile. The Mac50 was the best of the tyres I've tried.
All ime 'course.