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Re: Voltage regulator question...
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:23 pm
by Garnet
14.8V is a bit high but will not damage your battery. It will go through more water so must be checked more often. Like the others I would pop in the old Bosch iffin I was going a long trip with multiple 10 or 12 hour days, just to cut down on water consumption.
If your like me and do most of your long distance ridding in your mind, don't worry be happy.
The above is based on an old fashioned lead acid battery. If you are modern and sealed, then you have less to worry about, just check it for temp after an your or two in the saddle.
Re: Voltage regulator question...
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:57 pm
by Major Softie
Garnet wrote:The above is based on an old fashioned lead acid battery. If you are modern and sealed, then you have less to worry about, just check it for temp after an your or two in the saddle.
Actually, I believe Gel's are more susceptible to damage from over/too-fast charging
Re: Voltage regulator question...
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:30 pm
by Duane Ausherman
MS, yes the gel batteries that we use are even temperature compensated and that is in a room that is carefully kept within a few degrees. The charge voltage is controlled to within a few hundredths of a volt.
Re: Voltage regulator question...
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:51 pm
by Garnet
Yes a "Ge"l deep cycles is very sensitive to too high a voltage, but most (edit) sealed motorcycle batteries are AGM (aborsbed glass mat) which can take a bit more voltage than a lead acid and a lot more than a real gel.
Re: Voltage regulator question...
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:30 am
by Major Softie
Just wanted to clarify that "modern and sealed" isn't enough. There's sealed gel, sealed lead acid, and sealed AGM.
Re: Voltage regulator question...
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:30 am
by Ken in Oklahoma
Major Softie wrote:Just wanted to clarify that "modern and sealed" isn't enough. There's sealed gel, sealed lead acid, and sealed AGM.
I just discovered a few days ago that there is such a thing as an unsealed AGM--well sort of. I was shopping for an AGM battery and the nice young man at O'Reilly's brought it right out. That was easy, I thought. Then I opened the lid and saw what looked like a string of six little acid bottles full of acid.
"No, I'm looking for an AGM battery," I corrected.
He then explained that it is an AGM battery. You put the acid in the battery and then there's a cap that you seal over the openings.
"That's one of the prime reasons I want an AGM", I said, "so I don't have to fool around with acid". (I was thinking of the many holes I've put into jeans over the years and the number of times that clear hose popped off that tapered little nipple on the acid container, splattering acid over the top of the battery and/or the bench--and occasionally my jeans.
"No problem," he said. "We can put the acid in for you. (He sure was being helpful, that nice young man.)
"No," I said, my stubborn inner curmugeon taking over the conversation. "I'm going to pass." (I know that doesn't sound very cranky. You needed to be there to see the cranky look on my face.)
And then, miffed, I escaped and found the AGM battery of my dreams at Auto Zone.
And I'm now living happily ever after (so far).
Ken, happy in Oklahoma
Re: Voltage regulator question...
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:25 pm
by teo
Ken,
Not to judge, but the "6-bottle applicator" is ingenious and virtually spill proof. The batteries are "sealed" after you put the acid in them. The lids click shut tightly and can only be opened with the same force and ingenuity you would have to use on a "factory sealed" battery.
I had first hand exposure and practice with this system last month when my 1.5-yr old factory-sealed (*(#^$*&^@*&^&*^) Westco croaked in the middle of a baking Kansas. I bought a suitable battery at Walmart to get back on the road. WalMart's EverStart AGM batteries come empty of acid and must be filled. I got to thinking that it is not all that bad as the battery is new, gets its first charge when you fill it, and is literally factory fresh at that moment. It's working fine and there are no spills or leaks or messinesses.
Teo
Re: Voltage regulator question...
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:44 pm
by Major Softie
teo wrote:Ken,
Not to judge, but the "6-bottle applicator" is ingenious and virtually spill proof. The batteries are "sealed" after you put the acid in them. The lids click shut tightly and can only be opened with the same force and ingenuity you would have to use on a "factory sealed" battery.
I had first hand exposure and practice with this system last month when my 1.5-yr old factory-sealed (*(#^$*&^@*&^&*^) Westco croaked in the middle of a baking Kansas. I bought a suitable battery at Walmart to get back on the road. WalMart's EverStart AGM batteries come empty of acid and must be filled. I got to thinking that it is not all that bad as the battery is new, gets its first charge when you fill it, and is literally factory fresh at that moment. It's working fine and there are no spills or leaks or messinesses.
Teo
Yeah, that would be a bit of a pain, but it does mean that you know the battery hasn't been sitting there deteriorating on the shelf for months.
Re: Voltage regulator question...
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:04 pm
by 2valve
[quote="Garnet"]
If your like me and do most of your long distance ridding in your mind, don't worry be happy.
thats a good one

, me to!, actually dont ride the bike hardly at all

" no " shellbe you cant have the bike

, thought i'd get in first this time .
Re: Voltage regulator question...
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:11 pm
by She'llbe
2valve wrote:Garnet wrote:
If your like me and do most of your long distance ridding in your mind, don't worry be happy.
thats a good one

, me to!, actually dont ride the bike hardly at all

" no " shellbe you cant have the bike

, thought i'd get in first this time .
Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!