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Wow I didn't want to start this all over again - sorry.
Just wanted to show off my new bling tool.

OK, I'm not getting into this one.

Buy a load cell that fits between socket and ratchet and/or extension; test, rinse, repeat and report. We don't live in a static World.

You are fine. My post IS the answer. There is one way to tell how much torque is applied to a fastener by a socket, etc. measure it at the fastener - case closed on that deal. Again not a static World; fasteners are insanely more complex than any equation I was taught by the same engineers that said, "Never use this for data!"

dwire wrote:There is one way to tell how much torque is applied to a fastener by a socket, etc. measure it at the fastener - case closed on that deal.

What happened to "Airheads - Simple by Choice"?

Kurt in S.A.

Good one...

I'm sure I was "in on this" (topic) before; likely when the blisters were still fresh on my hands from doing torque to seal, and torque to yield on both tube nuts (offset situation) and bleeder valves (not offset) on just about every brake product known to man. Sucked...

Oh yeah, Snap-On makes a digital load-cell "get up" for between a socket and offending extension or your ratchet end; don't recall it being all too prohibitive for the obsessive.

Not sure about your quote and yes the '71 is air-cooled, but I am afraid I am the more likely "Air-Head" of the two!

IME, there are really only a handful of places where a torque wrench is needed...most other locations are just tightened to a snug level or a feel...one should really develop some kind of "feel" when working on these bikes. I believe the "bling", er, tool in question was to be used on the driveshaft bolts at the back of the tranny. Sufficient torque can be achieved using the tool kit wrench with a rag in the hand and giving it a good grunt...use of blue loctite can help to ensure the bolts stay in place and secure. Getting a load cell into this area is impossible. I believe Sears also sells one of these devices, too.

Kurt in S.A.

Kurt in S.A. wrote: I believe the "bling", er, tool in question was to be used on the driveshaft bolts at the back of the tranny. Sufficient torque can be achieved using the tool kit wrench with a rag in the hand and giving it a good grunt...use of blue loctite can help to ensure the bolts stay in place and secure. Kurt in S.A.

Kurt - I have done it before exactly as you described with success. Like I said - "tool junkie".
Try the purple (Loctite 243), same as the blue (242) but it is oil resistant.

dougie wrote:Like I said - "tool junkie".

Well known "affilication"...BTDTHT (...added the Have That).

Kurt in S.A.

Kurt in S.A. wrote:IME, there are really only a handful of places where a torque wrench is needed...most other locations are just tightened to a snug level or a feel...one should really develop some kind of "feel" when working on these bikes. I believe the "bling", er, tool in question was to be used on the driveshaft bolts at the back of the tranny. Sufficient torque can be achieved using the tool kit wrench with a rag in the hand and giving it a good grunt...use of blue loctite can help to ensure the bolts stay in place and secure.

I would agree whole heartedly...

Kurt in S.A. wrote: Getting a load cell into this area is impossible. I believe Sears also sells one of these devices, too.

Again absolutely true, was it not you that was telling us what engineering says about how the equations in question truly work?

Kurt in S.A. wrote: ...That's the engineering facts...

My statement was a direct reflection on that, not the implication that one would ever use a load cell anywhere on a BMW. An accurate load cell would show a person that the calculations work well enough for anything we would likely ever do on our BMW's (just as common sense and one's hand will too in most places) but DO NOT work in practice with accuracy and while math, theory can be sound, it does not necessarily reflect the reality of the World we live. If you used a load cell and compared measurements to the "engineering facts" you would understand this - that was all I was illustrating friend.

dwire wrote:that was all I was illustrating friend.

I think we're on the same page... +1.

Kurt in S.A.