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Re: 1976 R90S Misfiring/hesitation
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:57 am
by DLC3
Major Softie... you may be right about trying to work with the old advance unit, but it is 36 years old and kind of corroded. And the best part is that any NEW parts I put in this machine have a lifetime guarantee... I am 68 years old. And ME109, I don't have the answer to your question, but I am going to guess that a full force throttle on the weight arms of the advance cause it to fly all the way open, where less force requires a more delicate, smooth, gradual opening of the weight arms. I'm sure others here could answer this better than I can.
Re: 1976 R90S Misfiring/hesitation
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:19 pm
by DLC3
Last week I posted this topic about hesitation/misfiring that I was experiencing on a 1976 R90S. The motorcycle was breaking down between 3000 and 4000 rpm at slow throttle increases, but running great at full throttle all the way up through the rpms. Based on Duane's suggestion that I put my strobe light on the advance unit, I did that. And I could see that the weight arms were not opening smoothly at slow throttle increases. I ordered a new advance unit ($250) and it arrived yesterday. I installed it this morning. I now have a much better appreciation for what was happening. Either the old advance unit was malfunctioning OR my Dyna III rotor mounted on the advance was too tight. I'm not sure which. When I originally installed this Dyna III electronic ignition, I got the rotor too loose. One day when I was out for a ride, the motorcycle quit for no obvious reason. I got it home and opened it up and found the rotor with the magnet was loose so I tightened the two screws and put things back together. It ran again. Over time, I noticed the hesitation mentioned above, and I tried everything I could think of to correct it. This morning, I put the Dyna III rotor on the new advance and installed it. I could see that the weight arms would not open at all. I finally figured out that the Dyna III rotor screws cannot be too tight or it will not allow the weight arms on the advance to open. And I know from before, that these screws can't be too loose, or the rotor will come loose. I finally got everything put back together so the arms open properly (under the strobe light), and I took the R90S out for a test ride. No more hesitation!!! Nice smooth operation at slow throttle increases and full throttle. I have no clue whether my problem was from a bad advance or from the Dyna III screws being a bit too tight, but it was one or the other. Thank you, Duane!!!
DLC3
Re: 1976 R90S Misfiring/hesitation
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:19 pm
by Duane Ausherman
DLC3, now that you have had this experience, you know two things.
1. It is quick and easy to show the operation of the advance when you alreay have the strobe hooked up for ignition timing.
2. You know that it can be very important, so do it every time the chance is at hand.
Very few people do this and professional shops aren't much better.