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Re: How do I determine cylinder CC without head removal?

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:54 pm
by George Ryals
Installation Instructions
For the R50/5 to R100/7 (up to 1979) motors (intake valve 42mm, exhaust valve 38mm or
40mm), because of the greater valve lift of the 336° camshaft (10.68mm, as opposed to
8.62mm for the 284° and 9.40mm for the 308° camshaft)
the valve pockets in the pistons must
be made deeper at the edge. (See the following table, as well as Figure 1, Detail “B”.)
Clearance between valve and piston at overlap – TDC
Valve crank ° clearance additional milling of the valve pocket bottom.
Exhaust 3° BTDC 2.3mm 0.4mm
Intake 3° ATDC 2.3mm 0.4mm
Camshaft with 3° retarded slot
Exhaust 3° ATDC 2.7mm -
Intake 9° ATDC 2.0mm 0.7mm

Re: How do I determine cylinder CC without head removal?

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:05 pm
by John Falconer
I'm up in Humboldt County on a slow connection so I'll make this brief. I'll post the full info I have on the 336 cams once I'm home - too difficult to do on this slow remote terminal to my home servers.

Others can address issues of the measuring combustion chamber volume with heads in situ - I've done it but figure its being addressed already.

Very brief not re cams:
http://falcons.dyndns.org/links/open/bm ... te_std.jpg

Picture of nose of stock cam:
http://falcons.dyndns.org/links/open/bm ... ew_std.jpg

Picture of nose of 336 factory cam:
http://falcons.dyndns.org/links/open/bm ... ew_std.jpg

Have fun, John

Re: How do I determine cylinder CC without head removal?

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:44 pm
by Rob Frankham
It may be worth mentioning that the capacity of the cylinders of a 247 series engine is cast on the flanges of said cylinders... unless they've been bored out of course.

Rob

Re: How do I determine cylinder CC without head removal?

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:00 pm
by Deleted User 62
John Falconer wrote: Picture of nose of stock cam:
http://falcons.dyndns.org/links/open/bm ... ew_std.jpg

Picture of nose of 336 factory cam:
http://falcons.dyndns.org/links/open/bm ... ew_std.jpg

Have fun, John
Aren't all those cam noses from bikes with bean can ignitions? I have points.

Re: How do I determine cylinder CC without head removal?

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:03 pm
by Deleted User 62
Rob Frankham wrote:It may be worth mentioning that the capacity of the cylinders of a 247 series engine is cast on the flanges of said cylinders... unless they've been bored out of course.

Rob
Where is the flange? I've got "7" stamped on the cylinder base and "730 1182" cast into the fin closest the head gasket.

Re: How do I determine cylinder CC without head removal?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:56 am
by Deleted User 72
Tim Shepherd wrote:
John Falconer wrote: Picture of nose of stock cam:
http://falcons.dyndns.org/links/open/bm ... ew_std.jpg

Picture of nose of 336 factory cam:
http://falcons.dyndns.org/links/open/bm ... ew_std.jpg

Have fun, John
Aren't all those cam noses from bikes with bean can ignitions? I have points.
Yes.