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My SO is @ 5'2"–
Sitting on an airhead, but in the pilot's seat,
she will have no problem operating the foot controls.
Toes touching ground when landing will be another story entirely ...

vanzen@rockerboxer.com wrote:My SO is @ 5'2"–
Sitting on an airhead, but in the pilot's seat,
she will have no problem operating the foot controls.
Toes touching ground when landing will be another story entirely ...

Exactly similar here.

Ruth had never been on a motorcycle before she rode back of me, although she has ridden horses since childhood and is an accomplished equestrian. Her style of getting on the bike was unusual and unexpected - in one swift sequence she put a hand on my shoulder, stood on the passenger footrest, and threw her leg over the saddle, much as she would to get on a horse. Even with her small stature and light weight I nearly overbalanced and our date almost ended in the car park. She still gets on like that, but these days I'm ready for her.

Super cool my be just that.
I don't know if you ride in a cold weather climate, but if you do consider this:
The cooling tubes will transfer heat whether you are moving or not. This might be good in stop/go traffic in 90 degre weather, but not so good in 40 degree weather. It will increase the time the engine takes to come up to normal operating temperature. That's reason for thermostats on regular oil cooler systems.

Ray from Indiana wrote:Super cool my be just that.
I don't know if you ride in a cold weather climate, but if you do consider this:
The cooling tubes will transfer heat whether you are moving or not. This might be good in stop/go traffic in 90 degre weather, but not so good in 40 degree weather. It will increase the time the engine takes to come up to normal operating temperature. That's reason for thermostats on regular oil cooler systems.

I heard some would plug the holes with cork stoppers in cooler weather.

I can only imagine that the extension ring with cooling tubes would be a real-world PITA.
I see the tubes as being the welcome repository of every kind of road crap
that the mc might encounter on it's journeys ...
Perhaps fitting screens to the tubes ?
Or carrying a "bottle brush" in the tool-kit ?
And now there's this business of "corking" and "uncorking" to consider ?

If the riding environment is regularly or usually one of extreme heat and high oil temps –
why not retrofit a factory thermostatic oil cooler ?

Of course, the kit is expensive
and removing that short tube from the center of the "steering column"
in order to replace it with the requisite long one –
is a real PITA requiring a "special tool".
Thoroughly cleaning the red Loctite from it's threads borders on the impossible
without first removing the "steering column" –
and this will be press-fit and difficult to access and remove without destruction of the part ...

Maybe "tubes & corks" aren't such a bad idea ...
Or the old-skool method of a temp gauge and the dedicated commitment to pay attention ?

mattcfish wrote:The pan came with the bike when I bought it back in 1990. I did buy a deep R100 pan recently that I plan to use next time I change the gasket.

my mistake mattcfish! I thought I was replying to chuey's post, (sold him a deep pan). Cute wife!

twist wrote: my mistake mattcfish! I thought I was relying to chuey's post, (sold him a deep pan). Cute wife!

Dude, Bride of Chuey is an Amazon! She could ride a GS and put her feet flat on the ground. The other day a female customer was asking about a much modified really cool looking fixie in the shop. She asked if it was mine and I said no, it's Gretchen's. She said "Oh good, I thought it looked too big for you."

Chuey

Hi Vanzen
Re your note about possible tube blockage and other concerns on the Briel-type extension/tubed "coolers" - I have >90,000 road miles without a blockage, no funny leaks, no longer cooling period or stays too cold in the <40 degree wx. The tubed extender really only adds a quart of oil, doesn't diminish road clearance any more that the deep pans which is not a problem for "normal" riding, and doesn't really cool the oil all that much for normal riding. They are another cool item to add to the bike and think you have done some cool stuff for your baby. I like the extra oil but today would not pay for the "privilege". Of course I am 30 years older than when I installed it (and still have it) .

Actually, a tongue-in-cheek response to the tubes ...
However, I ran a (non-tube) deep sump on a '78 R100/7 for many years
with the idea that an extra quart would be cheap "insurance" for engine longevity -
This strategy will have been used often and elsewhere – and I will maintain that the strategy is valid.

I still want one of these.
http://www.motoren-israel.com/product_i ... ilter.html
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Still on sale.....how much is 199 EUR anyway?