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That pressure relief spring...

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:43 am
by dougie
Looking for the current conventional wisdom.
Inside the oil filter housing - that pressure relief ball and spring.
In Jeff's (ME109) case the spring broke and ate his bearings.
I am wondering (at 120,000 km) if I should just check it, or replace it anyway on suspicion of metal fatigue.
Springs are funny things - not all that rare for a new one to break prematurely and an old one last a long time.

Re: That pressure relief spring...

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:42 pm
by ME 109
Top of the morning to you Doug. Btw, how's that hip of yours?

The oil filter 'bypass' spring and ball.............. if the ball is spring loaded, I would be happy with that, no action required.

A check at each oil filter change is a good idea.

If the spring does break, imo it will take some time for the spring to break into smaller pieces, which is when the problems begin.
I think the time for the spring to break into smaller pieces is longer than an oil filter change interval at 6,000 miles.

Anything with a diameter of just under 1/8" will do for a testing poker.
The length of the poker needs to be about 7-8"

The 'poker' needs to have a squared end and not a pointed end (as in a skewer) as it slips of the ball too easily.

The ball only needs to be pushed in a max of 1/8", and will not harm anything.

A simple check for peace of mind.

Re: That pressure relief spring...

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:12 pm
by Garnet
ME 109 wrote:

"Anything with a diameter of just under 1/8" will do for a testing poker.
The length of the poker needs to be about 7-8"

The 'poker' needs to have a squared end and not a pointed end (as in a skewer) as it slips of the ball too easily."


So the awl that I've been useing isn't such a good idea. :o

Re: That pressure relief spring...

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:16 pm
by dougie
ME 109 wrote:Top of the morning to you Doug. Btw, how's that hip of yours?

The oil filter 'bypass' spring and ball.............. if the ball is spring loaded, I would be happy with that, no action required.
This weekend is oil changes and get ready for winter projects.
Thanks for the tips, I will check the spring as you described.

Hip is good Jeff - thanks. It won't ever be the same as before, but at my age more than a few parts are like that.
How many chaps can say their body contains more stainless and titanium than their bike?!
Cheers Mate.

Re: That pressure relief spring...

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:48 pm
by ME 109
Garnet wrote:So the awl that I've been useing isn't such a good idea. :o
I dunno Garnet, what is an awl?

I use the pointed end of my chainsaw file :shock: perfect diameter, squared end and perfect length.

I tried to use a piecost once but it was no good. :P

Re: That pressure relief spring...

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:12 pm
by Scot
dougie wrote:How many chaps can say their body contains more stainless and titanium than their bike?!
I can! Well . . . I could back when I had a bike. :cry:

I've got a pretty good sized chunk of stainless steel holding my right hip together . . . from hitting the side of a 4 wheeler at about 50 mph. :o

Re: That pressure relief spring...

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:24 pm
by dougie
Scot wrote:
dougie wrote:How many chaps can say their body contains more stainless and titanium than their bike?!
I can! Well . . . I could back when I had a bike. :cry:
I've got a pretty good sized chunk of stainless steel holding my right hip together . . . from hitting the side of a 4 wheeler at about 50 mph. :o
Hi Scot.
Hope you trashed the 4 wheeler.

Re: That pressure relief spring...

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:33 pm
by Scot
dougie wrote:
Scot wrote:
dougie wrote:How many chaps can say their body contains more stainless and titanium than their bike?!
I can! Well . . . I could back when I had a bike. :cry:
I've got a pretty good sized chunk of stainless steel holding my right hip together . . . from hitting the side of a 4 wheeler at about 50 mph. :o
Hi Scot.
Hope you trashed the 4 wheeler.

:lol: Yeah . . . caved it in real well; but of the two vehicles involved, my '78 R80/7 certainly got the worse end of that deal!

Re: That pressure relief spring...

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:46 pm
by dougie
Scot wrote: :lol: Yeah . . . caved it in real well; but of the two vehicles involved, my '78 R80/7 certainly got the worse end of that deal!
Shit.
Can you ride?
Are you getting another bike?

Re: That pressure relief spring...

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:54 pm
by Scot
dougie wrote:Shit.
Can you ride?
Are you getting another bike?
Yeah, Dougie. No worries. That whole deal happened back in '93, and I've had another bike since then. Unfortunately, I had to sell my pride and joy 4 months ago because I lost my job. Now that I'm back among the employed, I'll be shopping for another probably next year. I'm thinkin' maybe a Guzzi or a K75RT.