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Timing Chain Guide Rail Nut/Bolt Torque Spec

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:35 pm
by Jeff in W.C.
I've read through the Clymer Manual and a BMW Service Manual, but I cannot locate where the torque spec is for the nut and bolt on the timing chain guide rail. I think it should be easy to find, but I'm coming up short on this. Can someone let me know what the torque spec is?

Thanks in advance

Re: Timing Chain Guide Rail Nut/Bolt Torque Spec

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:16 am
by SteveD
#13? M8x22 8.8 strength from the factory twin shock manual. The manuals should have a torque spec page in the first chapter?

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Re: Timing Chain Guide Rail Nut/Bolt Torque Spec

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:27 am
by Rob Frankham
BMW and most manuals only specify the torque for a specific fastener if it differs from the standard torque for that particular thread size. I don't know which edition of Clymer you are using but the table of standard torques is on page 22 in mine (1997 printing).

Rob

Re: Timing Chain Guide Rail Nut/Bolt Torque Spec

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:16 pm
by Jeff in W.C.
Thanks Steve for that table; however, I'm not sure how to interpret/read the table.

An M8 8.8 bolt/nut shows this

2.2 + 0.2
16 + 1.4

What number do you use? Sorry, but this is above my knowledge. Time to go back to school--so to speak.

Re: Timing Chain Guide Rail Nut/Bolt Torque Spec

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:20 pm
by Jeff in W.C.
Rob Frankham wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:27 am BMW and most manuals only specify the torque for a specific fastener if it differs from the standard torque for that particular thread size. I don't know which edition of Clymer you are using but the table of standard torques is on page 22 in mine (1997 printing).

Rob
My version is the 2002 printing and the general torque specs are on page X. It shows 8mm thread diameter at 14-19 Nm or 10-14 ft-lbs.

Re: Timing Chain Guide Rail Nut/Bolt Torque Spec

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:52 pm
by Kurt in S.A.
Jeff in W.C. wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:16 pm An M8 8.8 bolt/nut shows this

2.2 + 0.2
16 + 1.4
2.2 is for kilopondmeter which converts to 16 ft-lbs. Top line is mkp and bottom line is ft-lbs.

Kurt

Re: Timing Chain Guide Rail Nut/Bolt Torque Spec

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:36 pm
by Jeff in W.C.
Kurt in S.A. wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:52 pm
Jeff in W.C. wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:16 pm An M8 8.8 bolt/nut shows this

2.2 + 0.2
16 + 1.4
2.2 is for kilopondmeter which converts to 16 ft-lbs. Top line is mkp and bottom line is ft-lbs.

Kurt
Thanks Kurt. Sorry, but I have another basic question. Do you add the 16 and 1.4 for a total of 17.4?

Out of curiosity, what is the 1.4 for?

P.S. I had to Google kilopondmeter. This stuff is outside of my current knowledge base, but it's always cool learning new stuff.

Re: Timing Chain Guide Rail Nut/Bolt Torque Spec

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:12 pm
by Kurt in S.A.
I think the 1.4 is a not to exceed number on top of the 16 ft-lbs. Sometimes you see +/- numbers to indicate a range.

Kurt

Re: Timing Chain Guide Rail Nut/Bolt Torque Spec

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:05 pm
by Jeff in W.C.
Kurt,
That makes sense.

Thanks,