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19" wheel on a Mono?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:09 am
by Nourish
I'm trying to source the bits to put X-spoked wheels on my Mono, If I were to use a R1100R front wheel with its 19" rim instead of the Mono's 18" rim what should I expect with regards the handling with the bigger wheel, after all the earlier models used that size - I can only see that the tyre choice is a little more limited. Cheers

Re: 19" wheel on a Mono?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:29 am
by Rev Light
Has you mono got an alloy top yoke ? - if it has, and not the stamped metal plate that older airheads have, you should be alble to redress any issues with handling of your larger wheel by letting the forklegs slide up by half an inch.

I did this when I mounted a larger wheel on my R65 - fortunately all R65's have an alloy top yoke. (triple tree you yanks call it?)

So give it a try.

Re: 19" wheel on a Mono?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:56 am
by Nourish
I am trying to put together some K75S forks to put on ( hence an earlier post on Mystik indicator brackets)

Re: 19" wheel on a Mono?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:24 pm
by vanzen
I do not know for certain, but from looking at part #s –
The R1100R and the K75S use different front spindles.
Apparently the spindle diameters ≠ as the front wheel bearings also differ in I.D.
Spacers are also different between these two models ...
I could be wrong, but Fitting an R1100R front wheel to K75S forks
does not appear to be so easy as swapping the wheel.
But then you knew that.

Depending upon your choice of 19" tire,
tire /fork brace / fender clearance or interference may possibly be an issue, too.

Beyond the mechanics of swapping, and to answer your question -
any difference in handling will be quantified primarily by the circumference of the tire used
and the comparative weight of the wheel / tire assemblies.
The diameter of the rim is actually of little consequence
except to the extent that it determines the above two factors.

More weight translates into greater steering effort (rider input) needed to affect a change of direction,
A larger circumference typically increases gyroscopic effects
also resulting in greater steering effort (rider input) needed to affect change of direction.
This will be why 19" wheels and tires with large aspect ratios are typically no longer used on street bikes.
One scenario where smaller is better.

Re: 19" wheel on a Mono?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:40 pm
by Major Softie
Where are you finding 19" R1100R wheels? I can't find anywhere that lists that wheel. The R1100R was stock with either the 3.5 x 17" cast wheel, or the 2.5 x 18" Cross-spoke. The GS had a 19" wheel.

Also, earlier models did NOT use that size. They had a 1.85 x 19" front rim - same diameter, but very different from a 2.5 x 19" (or 2.5 x 18"). Making sure you have clearance for the much wider tire will be important, but the K75S had a 2.5" wide front rim, so those forks (including their triple clamps) should clear fine.

Re: 19" wheel on a Mono?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:53 pm
by ME 109
vanzen@rockerboxer.com wrote: A larger circumference typically increases gyroscopic effects
For a long time I have thought that the gyroscopic effect actually benefits our older airheads handling.
I have thought this because of the difference in handling from say 40 mph to 50 and above mph.
The heavier, larger 19" snowflake seems to reduce rubbercowness as speed increases.
Is this the case?

Re: 19" wheel on a Mono?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:02 pm
by dougie
ME 109 wrote:Is this the case?
Nah! You're just such an awesome rider Jeff! :lol:

Re: 19" wheel on a Mono?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:21 pm
by ME 109
dougie wrote:Nah! You're just such an awesome rider Jeff! :lol:
It's all bullshit Doug. I don't even own a motorcycle :shock:

Re: 19" wheel on a Mono?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:40 pm
by Deleted User 62
ME 109 wrote:
dougie wrote:Nah! You're just such an awesome rider Jeff! :lol:
It's all bullshit Doug. I don't even own a motorcycle :shock:
Oh sure, you had me going there for a minute.... Next you'll be telling us the bullet holes aren't real! :roll:

Re: 19" wheel on a Mono?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:23 pm
by ME 109
Tim Shepherd wrote: Oh sure, you had me going there for a minute.... Next you'll be telling us the bullet holes aren't real! :roll:
No.......the bullet holes are real.
They were from a spitfire. He came out of the sun. True story. :mrgreen: