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Idle Fluctuating
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:23 pm
by Rapid Dog
'81 RS
Odd thing going on here.
Idle doesn't want to come down when coming to a stop or even just blipping the grip.
It comes down gradually. It's like 'over-run' for lack of a better word.
I've even seen it go back up to like 2K then back down while not even touching the grip.
Not stuck cables or even fuel I'm assuming as I've checked all that out, cables have slack, twistgrip not sticking or otherwise.
Carbs are synched. new slide needles which I've measured to make sure they are on the second notch.
Possibly the ignition module?
The ignition is all new Mororrad Elektrk Alpha.
Re: Idle Fluctuating
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:32 pm
by Boertjie
Throttle return springs OK?
Re: Idle Fluctuating
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:50 pm
by Garnet
Lay out your timming light and remove the timming plug. Go for a short ride, long enough for the idle to stay up, then pull into your driveway/garage and whip the timing light on it and see if the advance is hanging up.
The Motorrad Alpha has electronic advance, right? It should not stay advanced.
Re: Idle Fluctuating
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:52 pm
by Garnet
A too lean mixture at idle will cause this sometimes.
Re: Idle Fluctuating
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:10 pm
by Rapid Dog
Throttle springs are new, not hanging up, cables are new, carbs are rebuilt, all new jets.
This is something new that's happening.
The Alpha is electronic advance I do believe has a remote module under the tank.
Re: Idle Fluctuating
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:35 pm
by dwerbil
Funny, my /7 behaved about the same a few years ago....the idle at a stop light would be high, then maybe drop down to normal after a minute or so. Duane's test nailed it for me --- when it's at the high idle, turn the ignition key off and back on in a instant...if the idle drops back to normal, the advance springs are worn and need replacing. The advance should be cleaned too. That fixed it for me. Dunno about your electronic ignition though. Good luck.
Re: Idle Fluctuating
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:39 pm
by George Ryals
Plus 1 for too lean mixture.
Re: Idle Fluctuating
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:15 pm
by mattcfish
George Ryals wrote:Plus 1 for too lean mixture.
Yeah, this can happen if your butterflies are open to wide while adjusting mixture. You want them closed as much as possible (idle speed screw turned out) and still have the bike idleing with 1.5 turns out on the mixture screws.
Sticking float, enrichers not shutting off all the way? These are issues I've delt with that cause similar symptoms.
Re: Idle Fluctuating
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:37 pm
by 05hexhead
Have you checked for smooth operation of the throttle cable splitter under the tank? If there is to much slack in the top cable sometimes it can get hung up going into the adjuster.
Re: Idle Fluctuating
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:21 pm
by George Ryals
Not fully warming the engine(20 minute ride) before adjusting the mixture screws is the easiest way to develop the described fast idle condition.