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Copper Head Gaskets

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:09 pm
by Nourish
I ran my newly built 1050 engine this week for the first time and it leeks!!! I had started it up first and ran it up just for a couple of minutes and then a few days later to adjust the timing and carb's and oil was leaking from the R/H upper head stud. In hindsight perhaps I should have re-torqued the heads after the first start up and not let my Pal strip the head off so hastily - but it's off. So when I put it all back together should I put the Copper head gasket back on dry or use a sealant such as Hylomar (do you have that in the US?) or perhaps Drei Bond as I shall have to buy a new tube of that for the base joint face.

Re: Copper Head Gaskets

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:02 pm
by Motorhead
thats a Copper habit

I'd use a high heat rubber sealer or a undrying other type................

a solid copper over the materal and steel BMW used...............THINK man THINK

Re: Copper Head Gaskets

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:44 pm
by dougie

Re: Copper Head Gaskets

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:25 pm
by Duane Ausherman
We had copperheads where I grew up, but I never saw one with gaskets.

Re: Copper Head Gaskets

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:51 pm
by Major Softie
Well, that would demonstrate the need, wouldn't it?

Sad to think of all those poor copperheads roaming around in your youth, all without gaskets...

Re: Copper Head Gaskets

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:24 pm
by twist
I remember when I had my old Triumph, which used copper head gaskets. If I remember rightly, the procedure was to heat the head gasket to cherry red and then anneal it in motor oil and let it cool prior to use.

Re: Copper Head Gaskets

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:41 pm
by Major Softie
twist wrote:I remember when I had my old Triumph, which used copper head gaskets. If I remember rightly, the procedure was to heat the head gasket to cherry red and then anneal it in motor oil and let it cool prior to use.
Actually, the heating is the annealing process. The cooling process doesn't matter - unlike carbon steel, where slow cooling anneals while quick cooling hardens. So, while the oil dipping may have had some positive effect on the surface of the metal, you could cool it in water or just slowly air cool, and it would still be annealed.

Re: Copper Head Gaskets

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:19 pm
by vanzen
Any Copper head gaskets that I have seen for an airhead must be annealed to be installed–
squeaky clean surfaces all around AND sealed – I would rec a Hylomar spray.

Re: Copper Head Gaskets

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:45 am
by Roy Gavin
Locktite 601 was the factory recommendation on late model Triomph/BSAs .

Seems to have worked OK on my B44.

Re: Copper Head Gaskets

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:36 am
by Jean
I think the torque to properly seat a copper gasket would be greater than that to seat the composite OEM gasket.
Which might lead to stripping the case threads...No one has EVER done that, have they? (LOL)