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Grooved brake shoes?
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:03 pm
by jjwithers
Does anybody sell brake shoes that have grooves in them? (for a /5)?
The seem like an upgrade by allowing multiple surface areas to grip the drum, and also allow some air for cooling and brake dust venting, etc...
Is there a way to add grooves to the shoe compound?
Thanks.
-josh
Oh, here is a link to an image of what i am referring to:
http://cdn.cheapcycleparts.com/images/m ... 194957.jpg
Re: Grooved brake shoes?
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:45 pm
by Chuey
You could groove any brake shoes you want with a die grinder and a composite disc. I'd wear breathing protection and use a powerful vacuum cleaner or fan to make sure I wasn't breathing in any brake dust.
Chuey
Re: Grooved brake shoes?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:20 am
by robert
jjwithers wrote:Does anybody sell brake shoes that have grooves in them? (for a /5)?
The seem like an upgrade by allowing multiple surface areas to grip the drum, and also allow some air for cooling and brake dust venting, etc...
Is there a way to add grooves to the shoe compound?
Thanks.
-josh
Oh, here is a link to an image of what i am referring to:
http://cdn.cheapcycleparts.com/images/m ... 194957.jpg
You may want to check, but there may be an Ipod app for that.
Re: Grooved brake shoes?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:14 am
by SteveD
Angle grinder? It'd be the "airhead" way. 
Re: Grooved brake shoes?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:49 am
by ME 109
SteveD wrote:Angle grinder? It'd be the "airhead" way. 
Do stop tho' when the sparks start!
Re: Grooved brake shoes?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:46 am
by Major Softie
SteveD wrote:Angle grinder? It'd be the "airhead" way. 
Like hell! The Airhead way is a triangular file - or, perhaps, a hacksaw blade.
JJ, your speculation is not based in science as I understand it. Grooves
might prevent gases from the pads from helping allow the material to slide/skip over the drum, but they will not provide more cooling, "multiple surface areas," or vent brake dust. So, it is not impossible that grooving your shoes might improve your braking, but since it will also reduce the amount of friction material actually contacting the drum, I don't know if it will actually result in any improvement in braking. Even if it could make your braking better, I don't know how you could know how many grooves of what dimension would be most likely to provide a benefit.
Unfortunately, it would be very difficult for an owner to actually test this idea in any scientific way and know if it was making any real difference in his braking. Not impossible, but certainly difficult.
Re: Grooved brake shoes?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:42 pm
by Motorhead
I see it as a wet condition improvement/experement as drum in puddles and rain do suffer some lesser stopping power if water gets into the drum
you could load the brake lightly to keep dry too! but a channel shoe could prove useful to the user..................
a fully bonded shoe could be drilled like a disc about 8 ea 1/4 hole would do it and give some lighter weight to the whole bike
Re: Grooved brake shoes?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:28 pm
by chasbmw
I have an old motoren Israel paper catalogue, in it there are some rear brake shoes for a late 800 GS with diagonal grooves. The shoes are made by EBC.
Must get back to the Olympics, UK versus the Aussis cycle team pursuit,
Re: Grooved brake shoes?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:35 pm
by Motorhead
Ditto that bicycle raceing rocks
Re: Grooved brake shoes?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:50 pm
by chasbmw
And the UK team won!