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Removal of swingarm bearings

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:35 pm
by pxc433
Hi

I have done this before, but cannot remember how.

I am trying to remove the bearings from the swingarm of my 1990 R80RT. I know I'll have to put drops of weld on the races to remove, but how do I actually get the bearings out? They certainly don't seem to want to pull out.

Swingarm is off to be power-coated. 5 x Scottish winters have done for it otherwise.

Thanks, Andy

Re: Removal of swingarm bearings

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:29 pm
by Duane Ausherman
Pry off the seals.
At that point, the bearings fall out.
Lay a bead of weld around the race, allow it to cool and it too will fall out.

Your question confuses me, so maybe I didn't answer your question. Weld doesn't come in drops.

Re: Removal of swingarm bearings

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:40 pm
by ME 109
Duane Ausherman wrote:Weld doesn't come in drops.
Actually it can. :ugeek:
Spray arc.

Not to say one can buy a liter of weld. :mrgreen:

Re: Removal of swingarm bearings

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:16 pm
by Duane Ausherman
A spray isn't a drop. The former is under pressure and the latter is powered by gravity.

Re: Removal of swingarm bearings

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:11 pm
by robert
Duane Ausherman wrote:A spray isn't a drop. The former is under pressure and the latter is powered by gravity.

Globular transfer mig welding drops molten metal on the weld pool. Its pretty ugly, lots of splatter. :D
Short circuit mig is used a lot.

Re: Removal of swingarm bearings

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:18 pm
by Major Softie
robert wrote:Globular transfer mig welding drops molten metal on the weld pool. Its pretty ugly, lots of splatter. :D
Short circuit mig is used a lot.
Clearly globular transfer would transfer globs. Duane is talking drops; not dollops, blobs, sprays, spots, goobers, boogers, smidgens, bits, or . . . globs.

You let us know when they come up with dropular transfer mig welding.

Re: Removal of swingarm bearings

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:22 pm
by robert
Major Softie wrote:
robert wrote:Globular transfer mig welding drops molten metal on the weld pool. Its pretty ugly, lots of splatter. :D
Short circuit mig is used a lot.
Clearly globular transfer would transfer globs. Duane is talking drops; not dollops, blobs, sprays, spots, goobers, boogers, smidgens, bits, or . . . globs.

You let us know when they come up with dropular transfer mig welding.

Dropular transfer is when the molten puddle lands on your boot. :mrgreen:

Re: Removal of swingarm bearings

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:32 pm
by ME 109
Duane Ausherman wrote:A spray isn't a drop. The former is under pressure and the latter is powered by gravity.
Spray arc isn't under pressure.
And they're droplets, driplets, tit- bits, morsels, weeny offerings.

Boogers :roll: that's so uncouth.

I welded out my swing arm bearings a couple of months ago.
Same technique as head stem bearings.

Re: Removal of swingarm bearings

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:59 am
by Ken in Oklahoma
Wouldn't the ideal swingarm bearing weldout machine be a TIG welder? No messy transfer of metal in any of the aforementioned unsavory configurations. Doesn't mean you wouldn't have to be careful, but a bit of hum and you're done?


Ken

Re: Removal of swingarm bearings

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:29 am
by ME 109
Ken in Oklahoma wrote:Wouldn't the ideal swingarm bearing weldout machine be a TIG welder? No messy transfer of metal in any of the aforementioned unsavory configurations. Doesn't mean you wouldn't have to be careful, but a bit of hum and you're done?


Ken
Can't see why it wouldn't work Ken. Perhaps a little safer as you say.
I don't have a tig.
It would be interesting to do a comparison to see if the addition of weld metal is necessary to aid in shrinking the shell.