Spendy but worth it?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:18 am
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Re: Spendy but worth it?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:00 am
Boy, I don't know. It's an awful lot of extra money just to look like you're not wearing gear.
Re: Spendy but worth it?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:46 am
I'm in the market for something like this. Something that's suitable for very short jaunts to in-town destinations where stripping out of riding gear is impractical. But not at that price. I haven't found anything yet.
Other brands of Kevlar jeans can be had for less than half the price of those Rokker jeans. Perhaps some 3M spray or a wax treatment would make them equally 'waterproof' (a claim I'm skeptical of btw).
There's also several kinds of long underwear made out of Kevlar/Cordura that could be worn with armour under a pair of regular jeans for a similar effect.
Regardless, denim will still never offer the abrasion resistance as leather.
Other brands of Kevlar jeans can be had for less than half the price of those Rokker jeans. Perhaps some 3M spray or a wax treatment would make them equally 'waterproof' (a claim I'm skeptical of btw).
There's also several kinds of long underwear made out of Kevlar/Cordura that could be worn with armour under a pair of regular jeans for a similar effect.
Regardless, denim will still never offer the abrasion resistance as leather.
Re: Spendy but worth it?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:26 pm
Yeah, no spray is ever going to make cotton "waterproof." Some of the best ones may make it water resistant enough to not be a total sponge in a real light rain though. Waxed cotton is water proof, but it feels, looks, and moves completely differently. Doesn't breath like regular cotton either.gocytocis wrote:
Other brands of Kevlar jeans can be had for less than half the price of those Rokker jeans. Perhaps some 3M spray or a wax treatment would make them equally 'waterproof' (a claim I'm skeptical of btw).
Some of the new super kevlar denims do claim to be able to outperform leather.gocytocis wrote:Regardless, denim will still never offer the abrasion resistance as leather.
I am still very skeptical.
Re: Spendy but worth it?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:29 pm
Not worth it to me. I won't even buy those stupid Levis bicycling jeans for 90 bucks.
Re: Spendy but worth it?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:52 pm
$550!!!!! Tell him he's dreaming!
Re: Spendy but worth it?
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:29 am
I think that if you treat any fabric with "Never Wet" from Home Depot, you will find that it won't get wet.
Re: Spendy but worth it?
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:32 am
They do make a fabric spray.....
Re: Spendy but worth it?
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:15 am
Rustoleum doesn't recommend it for fabric. From their website:
"Can NeverWet be used on fabric?
NeverWet is not recommended for use on clothing. Rust-Oleum NeverWet will adhere to most fabrics, but dries to a flat milky haze with a chalky feel. Test in an inconspicuous area before applying to the entire surface."
"Can NeverWet be used on fabric?
NeverWet is not recommended for use on clothing. Rust-Oleum NeverWet will adhere to most fabrics, but dries to a flat milky haze with a chalky feel. Test in an inconspicuous area before applying to the entire surface."
Re: Spendy but worth it?
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:45 am
It's got to be gore tex or a similar product. It's got to protect! I don't want to pack any rain gear. I did that forever, and I'm done with that. These pants are supposed to breathe, and the breathe-ability is controlled by heat which makes them adapt to a wide range of temperatures. I wouldn't want to be encased in some chemically sprayed sweaty jeans, that won't keep out the water at the seams anyway.
My experience with Pro shell Gor-tex has been excellent. It has allowed me to cut down my gear load dramatically. All my riding gear, gloves to boots is waterproof, protective, well vented, and comfortable for any weather. Yea this gear is expensive, but riding is an important part of my life.
Locally, I wear BMW City pants (http://www.amazon.com/BMW-Genuine-Motor ... W215C29MET) that are good looking jeans with D30 armour (http://www.d3o.com/materials/how-d3o-works/) in the knees and hips. They weave cordura with denim for much better abrasion protection than jeans, but they are not water proof. I picked up a pair at a BMW national rally for $150. They are quite comfy.
So a set of pants like these Rokkor's would complete my daily riding suit, requiring no rain equipment to be carried. I ride all year round here on Vancouver Island (British Columbia Canada), and it is not unusual to have cold wet costal sections segue, into the interior where it can be desert hot all in a matter minutes. I have Cordura Gore Tex riding pants that serve well, but when you show up in town you always feel like you are inappropriately dressed for meetings or social events with non riders. So Jeans that are protective, water proof, and comfortable, would make the transition from rider to a pedestrian much better.
I'm going to be in Philly (Pennsylvania USA) next week for business, where Revzilla is located (large bike equipment supplier) so I wrote them and they answered:
"Currently, we have one pair of the 36x34 Rokker Revolution Waterproof Jeans in the Showroom, and we would love if you swing by to try them out! We totally understand wanting to get the sizing just right. The jeans are a bit pricey, but they really are the best in the industry, in my opinion. Not only are they incredibly protective, but they are also just seriously nice jeans."
So if time allows, I will give them a try, and if they fit, and armor stays where it should, I may just have to pay the man. I'll report back to this thread. I'm sure there will be less expensive options in the future, but the mistake we often make, is thinking we have time.
My experience with Pro shell Gor-tex has been excellent. It has allowed me to cut down my gear load dramatically. All my riding gear, gloves to boots is waterproof, protective, well vented, and comfortable for any weather. Yea this gear is expensive, but riding is an important part of my life.
Locally, I wear BMW City pants (http://www.amazon.com/BMW-Genuine-Motor ... W215C29MET) that are good looking jeans with D30 armour (http://www.d3o.com/materials/how-d3o-works/) in the knees and hips. They weave cordura with denim for much better abrasion protection than jeans, but they are not water proof. I picked up a pair at a BMW national rally for $150. They are quite comfy.
So a set of pants like these Rokkor's would complete my daily riding suit, requiring no rain equipment to be carried. I ride all year round here on Vancouver Island (British Columbia Canada), and it is not unusual to have cold wet costal sections segue, into the interior where it can be desert hot all in a matter minutes. I have Cordura Gore Tex riding pants that serve well, but when you show up in town you always feel like you are inappropriately dressed for meetings or social events with non riders. So Jeans that are protective, water proof, and comfortable, would make the transition from rider to a pedestrian much better.
I'm going to be in Philly (Pennsylvania USA) next week for business, where Revzilla is located (large bike equipment supplier) so I wrote them and they answered:
"Currently, we have one pair of the 36x34 Rokker Revolution Waterproof Jeans in the Showroom, and we would love if you swing by to try them out! We totally understand wanting to get the sizing just right. The jeans are a bit pricey, but they really are the best in the industry, in my opinion. Not only are they incredibly protective, but they are also just seriously nice jeans."
So if time allows, I will give them a try, and if they fit, and armor stays where it should, I may just have to pay the man. I'll report back to this thread. I'm sure there will be less expensive options in the future, but the mistake we often make, is thinking we have time.