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R90s Voltmeter ...again!
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:08 pm
by Hoof
I understand that is an analog meter (what else!) - many of which can be adjusted for accuracy.....Mine works just fine but reads consistently high. Anyone know if there an adjuster on the meter somewhere?
Re: R90s Voltmeter ...again!
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:04 pm
by Kurt in S.A.
Don't know about an adjustment...likely there's no way inside, either. I have an old voltmeter and don't see anything that suggests adjustment and/or access. What about V=I*R? Use a resistor of some magnitude in series and see what happens?? I googled this and saw some discussions along these lines.
Kurt in S.A.
Re: R90s Voltmeter ...again!
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:23 am
by Duane Ausherman
Did you put another volt meter across that one to confirm that it is reading high? I would then be concerned that the charge voltage is also high. Neither is typical, so I am suspicious.
On a high quality old fashioned volt meter one can only adjust the centering screw for the needle.
Re: R90s Voltmeter ...again!
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:22 am
by Hoof
I am sure that It is the BMW meter reading high ....It reads nearly 17v on the voltmeter when it is really c.13.5v across the battery (Checked with two different meters to be sure!)
As I also cannot find an adjuster I'll look at the resistor option.
Thanks everyone
Re: R90s Voltmeter ...again!
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:38 pm
by Ken in Oklahoma
Hoof wrote:I am sure that It is the BMW meter reading high ....It reads nearly 17v on the voltmeter when it is really c.13.5v across the battery (Checked with two different meters to be sure!)
As I also cannot find an adjuster I'll look at the resistor option.
Thanks everyone
The stock BMW voltmeters, in the pods or dash, aren't noted for their accuracy. And even if you should stumble upon the right resistor (presuming the meter is known to be reading high, the stability of the fix would be dubious.
What I have done instead is to check the bike's voltmeter with a digital multimeter for accuracy. With the bike's rpm's up if the digital multimeter is reading what I think it should read, that is a fully charged known good battery, then I put a dot of white paint on the glass just above the needle tip. Seeing that needle pointing at the paint dot gives me all of the assurance I need about the charging system. (Note, lights on vs off and idling charging vs at higher rpm charging will make a difference. I like to have the rpms set at, say, 2,000 rpm with headlights on.
(editing) I have found the cheapo Harbor Freight multimeters to be accurate and sonsistent with each other. And smetimes Harbor Freight offers a coupon for a free multimeter with purchase. Yep, I'm not much of a fan of Harbor Freight but their multimeters have proven wonderfully accurate and durable for me.
Ken
Re: R90s Voltmeter ...again!
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:25 pm
by Edward
I don't know the volt meter in the 90S in particular, but typically there is an internal variable pot to trim the response and a mech control for zero. But a mass produced meter intended as a simple fail light replacement may not have any adjustments.
But you can use a variable pot in line or in place of the existing multiplier resistor or in parallel and do the math for the circuit. Depends if your reading low or high.
Once you find the correct deflection, just measure the setting on the pot and replace with resistor.
Caveat,I haven't worked as an EE in 25years, got sucked in to the dark side of SW
But analog meters are pretty straight forward.
Good luck,
Edward
Re: R90s Voltmeter ...again!
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:43 pm
by jimmyg
Hoof, you can adjust them. I've done it on my '74 S. (stock Motometer gauge), as it reads about 14.1vdc, engine running.
Its not easy as you'll have to remove the gauge cover to get to the innards. But once inside there is a mechanical peotentiometer.
I synched mine up to read battery voltage as they're notoriously lower than batt. voltage.
Mine's been working fine for 15+ years with that adjustment.
jimmyg
Re: R90s Voltmeter ...again!
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:03 pm
by Rob
jimmyg wrote:Hoof, you can adjust them. I've done it on my '74 S. (stock Motometer gauge), as it reads about 14.1vdc, engine running.
Its not easy as you'll have to remove the gauge cover to get to the innards. But once inside there is a mechanical peotentiometer.
I synched mine up to read battery voltage as they're notoriously lower than batt. voltage.
Mine's been working fine for 15+ years with that adjustment.
jimmyg
Along with a good, dedicated + & - wires running from the battery? (I think I have heard of this being done.)
Re: R90s Voltmeter ...again!
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:08 am
by jimmyg
you can wire it directly to the battery but then it's powered constantly, which isn't desirable.
Like I said, you can carefully pry off the cover of the voltmeter which allows disassembly.
Then you can adjust it to match battery voltage.
Re: R90s Voltmeter ...again!
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:15 am
by Hoof
Wonderful - Thanks for all the help - I'll pry off the cover and adjust the pot. It is much more satisfying to have a meter providing accurate information rather than constantly applying a correction!