Getting close!

[Zombie Master]

http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/ca/zero-ds-dsr

[Duane Ausherman]

Zak Vetter was riding his older slower version and grabbed a bit too much power and flipped it. That broke the rear fender in half and dumped him off and onto the pavement. How much more does anyone need?

[Rob]

Zak Vetter was riding his older slower version and grabbed a bit too much power and flipped it. That broke the rear fender in half and dumped him off and onto the pavement. How much more does anyone need?

Yep, we need to go FURTHER, not faster.

[Steve in Golden]

We need to go further, faster.

Looks like a fun machine, as long as you don't get too far from a charging station.

[enigmaT120]

I want one, I just don't want to pay for it.

From their web site:

140+ Mi Range / 300,000+ Mi Lifetime

The Zero DS and Zero DSR feature advanced cell chemistry and battery management systems that provide greater capacity and range. Not only does the ZF13.0 power pack enable you to go beyond 140 miles, it is also designed to last the life of the motorcycle. The result of cutting edge research and development, each cell in the power pack is individually controlled and monitored to ensure maximum health.

What do they consider the life of the motorcycle? Are my Triumph and my R65 past their life spans?

[Airbear]

"140+ Mi Range"

I could ride to Wagga Wagga. And after a while I could ride home again.

[Major Softie]

"140+ Mi Range"

I could ride to Wagga Wagga. And after a while I could ride home again.

No, you couldn't (assuming Wagga Wagga is over 100 miles away).

That 140+ mile range is in city driving. At 55 mph: 88 miles. At 70 mph: 70 miles.
They never mention that this is all obviously on fairly flat ground.

Which means I couldn't even ride from Placerville to Tahoe, because, while it's only about 61 miles, it's almost all uphill, and it's 65 and 60 mph.


On the plus side, an electric bike would be just as powerful up here at 7000 feet as it is at sea level, so I wouldn't be losing over 20% of my power like I do with an internal combustion engine.

[Rob]

"140+ Mi Range"

I could ride to Wagga Wagga. And after a while I could ride home again.

No, you couldn't (assuming Wagga Wagga is over 100 miles away).

That 140+ mile range is in city driving. At 55 mph: 88 miles. At 70 mph: 70 miles.
They never mention that this is all obviously on fairly flat ground.

Which means I couldn't even ride from Placerville to Tahoe, because, while it's only about 61 miles, it's almost all uphill, and it's 65 and 60 mph.


On the plus side, an electric bike would be just as powerful up here at 7000 feet as it is at sea level, so I wouldn't be losing over 20% of my power like I do with an internal combustion engine.

Just pull a trailer of batteries.

[Bamboo812]

Just pull a trailer of batteries.

Sidecar with a generator...

[Zombie Master]

Zak Vetter was riding his older slower version and grabbed a bit too much power and flipped it. That broke the rear fender in half and dumped him off and onto the pavement. How much more does anyone need?

They aren't really that powerful compared to large bore bikes these days. BMW's sport bike has three time the power. With electric, you have all the punch right off the bat, no revving required. Good thing is, power delivery is totally adjustable, You can do it with a smart phone apparently.