Two bikes - 45 years apart...

[dougie]

250cc, ??hp(probably 28-30), 160kg


250cc, 28.5hp, 110kg.


How much progress has really been made in 45 years?

[Zombie Master]

250cc, ??hp(probably 28-30), 160kg


250cc, 28.5hp, 110kg.


How much progress has really been made in 45 years?

Tons. Compare reliability, braking, charging system, lighting, suspension, emissions, tires ect,and the Ducati ends up looking like an attractive pile of crap.

[Deleted User 287]

And frame flex, or lack thereof.
But perhaps that is not such an issue with such a lightweight bike.

I wonder how much weight the fairing adds to the Honda?

[dougie]

I agree with all that. I was thinking more about engine output, and why the extra 50kg?
My W650 as delivered was 70 lbs heavier than a 1960's Bonneville.

[Deleted User 287]

I'll bet the tires weigh more, tubes notwithstanding.

And NOBODY is giving up the engine output rating!

[dougie]

And NOBODY is giving up the engine output rating!

I couldn't find the engine hp listed anywhere.

[Sibbo]

I've been thinking of a diesel Enfield , little slower than an ST .So sometimes less power is OK.

[Deleted User 287]

I've been thinking of a diesel Enfield , little slower than an ST .So sometimes less power is OK.

And you can fill the tank at McDonalds.

[Sibbo]

I've been thinking of a diesel Enfield , little slower than an ST .So sometimes less power is OK.

And you can fill the tank at McDonalds.

Yep ,that'is the idea ..I've got 6 drums 200 litre of used oil here waiting for me to get my act together .It's 95% done .Soon ,soon !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYEKbRPR ... re=related

[dougie]

I've been thinking of a diesel Enfield , little slower than an ST .So sometimes less power is OK.

An Enfield is slow even without making it a diesel.