Telix fork brace how too?
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I see two issues.
1. Does the (any) brace work to improve handling? With that question one might wonder; how does one measure "better handling?"
2. Does the brace allow for proper alignment of the forks? It would appear that the Telix brace would allow for any distance between the fork tubes. That is a very good thing, as it certainly is needed. Since I have never used, or mounted one, I can't say much about it.
Keep in mind that the stock set up was the best design on a prodution bike of that era. The design was fraught with difficulty related to the lack of quality control.
Once fixed out of the box these bikes handled quite well. Very few of our customers rode in such a way as to need more and better. As bling, we encountered quite a bit of the San Jose crap. It came to us because of handling problems. The stuff actually made them handle far worse than stock.
San Jose was having some racing success and offered their "race proven" items for sale. Sounds good, but it was pure marketing. In the early days it was mostly of very low quality fit. That is "nice" for saying that it didn't come close to fitting. There was the problem. The ideas were mostly good, but the production was faulty. That didn't stop them from selling them.
My experience mostly stopped at about that time, so I have little experience with later products from SJ, or other vendors.
First ask yourself if you "need" it or just "want" it. Be honest and if you do, I know the answer for most riders.
Then ask yourself, do you know how to align the forks and tweak the accessory parts to actually work as designed? Probably not.
If you still go ahead then you might fit the profile of those with more money than common sense. Look in the mirror. Are you fat and old? Did you ever ride really fast? Probably not. Do you really need to flatter yourself by thinking that you can now ride it fast enough to need improvements?
I may not have met you specifically, but I know your demographic, so don't try to fool me. You really aren't fooling anybody, but maybe yourself.
I will happily allow that maybe 2% of you don't fit the description of this rant. Now lets watch as at least 50% try to jam into that 2%.
1. Does the (any) brace work to improve handling? With that question one might wonder; how does one measure "better handling?"
2. Does the brace allow for proper alignment of the forks? It would appear that the Telix brace would allow for any distance between the fork tubes. That is a very good thing, as it certainly is needed. Since I have never used, or mounted one, I can't say much about it.
Keep in mind that the stock set up was the best design on a prodution bike of that era. The design was fraught with difficulty related to the lack of quality control.
Once fixed out of the box these bikes handled quite well. Very few of our customers rode in such a way as to need more and better. As bling, we encountered quite a bit of the San Jose crap. It came to us because of handling problems. The stuff actually made them handle far worse than stock.
San Jose was having some racing success and offered their "race proven" items for sale. Sounds good, but it was pure marketing. In the early days it was mostly of very low quality fit. That is "nice" for saying that it didn't come close to fitting. There was the problem. The ideas were mostly good, but the production was faulty. That didn't stop them from selling them.
My experience mostly stopped at about that time, so I have little experience with later products from SJ, or other vendors.
First ask yourself if you "need" it or just "want" it. Be honest and if you do, I know the answer for most riders.
Then ask yourself, do you know how to align the forks and tweak the accessory parts to actually work as designed? Probably not.
If you still go ahead then you might fit the profile of those with more money than common sense. Look in the mirror. Are you fat and old? Did you ever ride really fast? Probably not. Do you really need to flatter yourself by thinking that you can now ride it fast enough to need improvements?
I may not have met you specifically, but I know your demographic, so don't try to fool me. You really aren't fooling anybody, but maybe yourself.
I will happily allow that maybe 2% of you don't fit the description of this rant. Now lets watch as at least 50% try to jam into that 2%.
Ask the Indians what happens when you don't control immigration.
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"I will happily allow that maybe 2% of you don't fit the description of this rant. Now lets watch as at least 50% try to jam into that 2%."
That sounds like a dare! So, I will be first, and since I am first I have the most credibility. The rest that follow aren't nearly as good. Except Ken in OK. He's as good as me.
That sounds like a dare! So, I will be first, and since I am first I have the most credibility. The rest that follow aren't nearly as good. Except Ken in OK. He's as good as me.
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It really dosen't matter much, but just out of curiosity, was that comment directed at my post?Duane Ausherman wrote:I am at a loss for words.
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H-e-e-ey, did Duane just call me fat?! (oops, just looked in the mirror, and it's true!) No worries, I don't need any extra fork braces, but I also don't want my gummikuh to go all pear shaped on the somewhat rare occasion I do the ton.
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No, it was just a general rant. I resisted as long as I was able.R90Steve wrote:It really dosen't matter much, but just out of curiosity, was that comment directed at my post?Duane Ausherman wrote:I am at a loss for words.
Now lets step back and see who the 2% is. This should be fun. But then I always have fun here.
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Native, there never was a question about you being part of the 2%.Native /5 wrote:"I will happily allow that maybe 2% of you don't fit the description of this rant. Now lets watch as at least 50% try to jam into that 2%."
That sounds like a dare! So, I will be first, and since I am first I have the most credibility. The rest that follow aren't nearly as good. Except Ken in OK. He's as good as me.
Psst, notice that I didn't commit to either side.
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Re: Telix fork brace how too?
Or the least. I'm not really sure which it is.Native /5 wrote:So, I will be first, and since I am first I have the most credibility.
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Growing up, in my family, he who denied the dastardly deed last was the guilty party.
Q.E.D.
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Thanks for the pic Scot.
I don't think much of theteleflex telefix fork brace.
It may work as far as preventing the forks from widening (spreading legs
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Is that even a problem with airheads?
Isn't it a walking action of the fork legs that is the problem?
If the telefix was a single piece construction I could see more benefit.
Duane mentioned Frog's findings of variations in the hole centres in various triple trees.
Was it hole centres or was it misalignment of the holes/bores?
I can understand how an airhead can get into a wobble, however slight, on a race track which may have a very smooth tarmac, where the same radius bend and speed on a highway may not produce a wobble because bumps etc cancel the early stages of a progressing wobble.
Just a theory mind you
I don't think much of the
It may work as far as preventing the forks from widening (spreading legs

Is that even a problem with airheads?
Isn't it a walking action of the fork legs that is the problem?
If the telefix was a single piece construction I could see more benefit.
Duane mentioned Frog's findings of variations in the hole centres in various triple trees.
Was it hole centres or was it misalignment of the holes/bores?
I can understand how an airhead can get into a wobble, however slight, on a race track which may have a very smooth tarmac, where the same radius bend and speed on a highway may not produce a wobble because bumps etc cancel the early stages of a progressing wobble.
Just a theory mind you

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....well this is getting good...I rode it flat out ver my local set of sweepers on Saturday after checking the Telefix and trying it with the wipers pulled up off the sliders. The forks felt better than the first ride for sure, but still feeling some chatter.
As soon as the weather clears here in SoCal and I can get down my muddy road I'm going to try the same run sans the brace and report back...I may make it back into the 2%er rank yet.
As soon as the weather clears here in SoCal and I can get down my muddy road I'm going to try the same run sans the brace and report back...I may make it back into the 2%er rank yet.