R100RS rear master cylinder

Discuss all things 1970 & later Airheads right here.
User avatar
SteveD
Posts: 4942
Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:29 am
Location: Melbourne, Oz.

R100RS rear master cylinder

Post by SteveD »

I have a spare that I want to pull apart and see if I can clean it up.
I have it dismantled as far as I can go, but the master cylinder bits are still in the bore. Do I just put something like a drill bit thru the hole at one end and tap the bits out via the other end?


Image
Last edited by SteveD on Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Cheers, Steve
Victoria, S.E.Oz.


1982 R100RSR100RS supergallery. https://boxerboy81.smugmug.com/R100RS
2006 K1200R.
1994 R1100GS.
ME 109
Posts: 7308
Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:00 am
Location: Albury, Australia

Re: R100RS rear master cylinder

Post by ME 109 »

SteveD wrote: Do I just put something like a drill bit thru the hole at one end and tap the bits out via the other end?
I'm starting to have an effect on people..... :shock:

I've never pulled my rear mc apart, but surely there must be a circlip or sumpin'?
Lord of the Bings
User avatar
SteveD
Posts: 4942
Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:29 am
Location: Melbourne, Oz.

Re: R100RS rear master cylinder

Post by SteveD »

Can't see one. At one end is a hole at the bottom of the threaded bit that the steel line attaches to. The other end is the plunger end, and all I can see down there is what looks like a seal.
Last edited by SteveD on Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:36 am, edited 1 time in total.
Cheers, Steve
Victoria, S.E.Oz.


1982 R100RSR100RS supergallery. https://boxerboy81.smugmug.com/R100RS
2006 K1200R.
1994 R1100GS.
Deleted User 62

Re: R100RS rear master cylinder

Post by Deleted User 62 »

Did you try compressed air?
User avatar
SteveD
Posts: 4942
Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:29 am
Location: Melbourne, Oz.

Re: R100RS rear master cylinder

Post by SteveD »

Tim Shepherd wrote:Did you try compressed air?
Good idea. I gave that a shot...it worked. It did enough to move the assembly to a point where I was happy to then push it out. I used a piece of stiff wire, like an old coat hanger. It's just held in via a push fit, two scraper seals along the shaft of the device. No circlip.
rearbrakemc.jpg
rearbrakemc.jpg (156.81 KiB) Viewed 1132 times
mcassembly.jpg
mcassembly.jpg (109.94 KiB) Viewed 1132 times
Cheers, Steve
Victoria, S.E.Oz.


1982 R100RSR100RS supergallery. https://boxerboy81.smugmug.com/R100RS
2006 K1200R.
1994 R1100GS.
User avatar
SteveD
Posts: 4942
Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:29 am
Location: Melbourne, Oz.

Re: R100RS rear master cylinder

Post by SteveD »

Mine is missing the top hat spacer from the first picture. Were they discontinued at some stage I wonder? According to the maxfiche, nope. It seems the top hat spacer is included in both the 15mm and the 14mm master cylinder. Mine has a different shape to the shaft too.
Cheers, Steve
Victoria, S.E.Oz.


1982 R100RSR100RS supergallery. https://boxerboy81.smugmug.com/R100RS
2006 K1200R.
1994 R1100GS.
Jean
Posts: 1100
Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:43 am

Re: R100RS rear master cylinder

Post by Jean »

Just (past winter) rebuilt the rear MC on my '78 R100s. All the parts shown in the first pic were needed, "top hat" bumper also.
It was hard to get the insides out of the body tho, I had to give it a good hard knock with a length of rod to break it loose as the steel ring was rusty around the edges and was stuck tight. Lots of cleaning-up to do during the rebuild job, but the insides were not scored!!
Bleeding the system was the biggest pain.
Clemson, SC
R100s, R75/5
User avatar
SteveD
Posts: 4942
Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:29 am
Location: Melbourne, Oz.

Re: R100RS rear master cylinder

Post by SteveD »

The bleed of the rear setup is often complained about, as is the usefulness of the brake.
Many talk about removing the caliper and moving it around so that the nipple is uppermost.

However, there is no need to remove it to get the nipple uppermost. All that's needed is to undo two fasteners.
1. The nut/bolt at the torque arm
2. The axle tightening nut/bolt at the left end of the swingarm, caliper side.

Once the torque arm is disconnected and the other one is loose and the hydraulic line is released from the plastic retaining clip (if it's still there), the caliper can be swung with the nipples at 11-12 o'clock and the job done a little easier.

I've always used the syringe/tube retrograde fill method to replace the brake fluid. I find it easy and it also flushes junk into the reservoir for easy removal. BUT, last week I got lazy and installed some spring loaded bleed nipples, or speedbleeders. Too bloody easy by far.
https://www.speedbleeder.com

Image
Last edited by SteveD on Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Cheers, Steve
Victoria, S.E.Oz.


1982 R100RSR100RS supergallery. https://boxerboy81.smugmug.com/R100RS
2006 K1200R.
1994 R1100GS.
User avatar
SteveD
Posts: 4942
Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:29 am
Location: Melbourne, Oz.

Re: R100RS rear master cylinder

Post by SteveD »

ME 109 wrote:
SteveD wrote: Do I just put something like a drill bit thru the hole at one end and tap the bits out via the other end?
I'm starting to have an effect on people..... :shock:

I've never pulled my rear mc apart, but surely there must be a circlip or sumpin'?
I think it's safe to do it that way as any tool shoved in there is within the spring, preventing scoring of the bore.
Cheers, Steve
Victoria, S.E.Oz.


1982 R100RSR100RS supergallery. https://boxerboy81.smugmug.com/R100RS
2006 K1200R.
1994 R1100GS.
User avatar
SteveD
Posts: 4942
Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:29 am
Location: Melbourne, Oz.

Re: R100RS rear master cylinder

Post by SteveD »

Notice the difference in the design of the shaft. The second one is the replacement from MaxBMW. Can anyone see why it would be redesigned?

Image

Image
Cheers, Steve
Victoria, S.E.Oz.


1982 R100RSR100RS supergallery. https://boxerboy81.smugmug.com/R100RS
2006 K1200R.
1994 R1100GS.
Post Reply