Brown v Surefoot

[SteveD]

Doesn't the left footpeg have to be sent off to do some welding with the Surefoot?

Not for my 11/1981 model.

You do need to do that for the round air filter models before 1981.

http://www.motobins.co.uk/displayfinal. ... foot&go=GO

[ME 109]

Do the Browns and Surefoot retract like the oe side stand without throwing you off if 'yer ride off with the stand down?
I've not once ridden off with my side stand down. I've done it lots of times!

[SteveD]

I would think that if you rode off with either of them down and the first left hander was taken too fast for the circumstance, then I expect they might.

The surefoot is a little shorter in length and you might need to lean further over before it hits. It is easier to flick back up with your foot though.

I haven't done that yet, but did on a previous stand a few times, luckily at slow speeds.

[godot]

To me, there's just something happy looking about bikes all packed up for touring and camping.

Yes. Especially when they're next to a bunch of sad, shiny bikes that aren't (and likely won't be). To be used is a beautiful thing.

[Duane Ausherman]

I have no idea if/when it changed, but the automatic flip up was adjustable on the bikes in the 70s. In only a couple of seconds one could make the "auto flip up" over to the older stay "down type."

That applied to the /5, /6 and /7 models. BMW didn't advertise it because they needed to have it different ways in different cultures. Personally, I hate the auto flip up feature.

[Garnet]

Personally, I hate the auto flip up feature.

Specialy when you can't see the stand under the cylinder. I have both my bikes set so they stay down, just. When I forget,(which is often) they pop up with the slightist touch of the tarmac, or on it's own if I need to balance the carbs.

[Duane Ausherman]

I am curious just where you learned the little trick to change it from one state to the other?

[Garnet]

I am curious just where you learned the little trick to change it from one state to the other?

I don't remember. It was right after I bought my new R100/7 in 1977. It was either the local BMW guru or one of my airhead buddies. I might have known about it before I even owned BMW.

I'm sure it was the first wrench that I applied to the bike, probably as soon as I got it home.

[teo]

Duane, et al,

The "trick" to convert the factory setting of auto-retract to rider-smart retract was outlined in the early years of the BMWMOA magazine tech articles (back when MOA was really into tech and not gourmet food rides or Garmen pizazz).

One simply drilled a hole on the front side of the spring support tab and relocated the top spring connection to that new hole. Voile, the stand stayed down.

Despite my being an extremely atuned rider (ahem) I have occasionally ridden off with the (^)(*&(*&%&^% thing down and had fun trying to turn left .

That's all I have to say about that,
Teo

[Duane Ausherman]

One does not drill anything. One does not reposition anything. It takes far more time to type it up than to do it. It is a 3-4 second job. It is on my website.