So I had a fabulous ride to SF and back a couple weeks ago, but I had some pinging when climbing grades at freeway speeds in the inland heat. Gave me a good excuse to try some back road alternates to 101 (ooh, that 271!) but this must be fixed. Got home, checked the timing, and it was a trifle advanced, with F sitting high in the window. As my timing plate is all the way retarded, I reset the point gap just a smidge and things were much better. Went on a ride last Wednesday, and had one incident of "pop" as I put a load on it, indicating that the point gap was maybe a wee spot too small for regular use.
So the cover came off again today to see if I could get the point gap and timing to spec at the same time. I cleaned off the points and sanded them flat and shiny, reinstalled and regreased the block, and went about checking the timing statically. I set up my static light and turned the motor over a few times with the wrench in the alternator bolt. I found that consistently one side showed "S" low to below the window and the other side showed it high in the window. I put things a bit more together and used the strobe, revving it slowly up to 3K and saw that I had an "F" that rose in the window and went out of sight as another "F" came into the scene. I may have been pinging on one side only, no?
What is the fix for this with the parts (points, advance unit, cam) on hand? Is this the one electrical problem I can fix with a hammer?
Timing different from side to side
Timing different from side to side
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Re: Timing different from side to side
If you look at parts prices the cheapest way of fixing things is a cheap Boyer ignition - they are programmed to fire at equal intervals and you will probably get the bonus of smoother running too.
I fitted one to my 75/7 15 years ago to solve the same problem, and it has been fit and forget - I haven't touched it since.
Boyer also sell kits with matching twin coil and leads for a sensible price, so you can replace the lot at the same time and be certain of getting a result - which suits folks like me who have to order everything from overseas and wait weeks for delivery.
I fitted one to my 75/7 15 years ago to solve the same problem, and it has been fit and forget - I haven't touched it since.
Boyer also sell kits with matching twin coil and leads for a sensible price, so you can replace the lot at the same time and be certain of getting a result - which suits folks like me who have to order everything from overseas and wait weeks for delivery.
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Re: Timing different from side to side
Roy, is that ignition available in the USA?
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Rocky Point has it, $200. I'm in favor as a next winter project, but I'm under a budget right now. Recent words from the dear Mrs. melville: "You spent HOW MUCH for gloves?!?!?!"dwerbil wrote:Roy, is that ignition available in the USA?
I think I've seen mention of cam nose truing, and I'm ready with all the ugly tools to give it a shot.
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Held?melville wrote:
Rocky Point has it, $200. I'm in favor as a next winter project, but I'm under a budget right now. Recent words from the dear Mrs. melville: "You spent HOW MUCH for gloves?!?!?!"
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Not even! FirstGear, about $60! Therefore the "fix with parts on hand" theme here.Major Softie wrote:Held?melville wrote:
Rocky Point has it, $200. I'm in favor as a next winter project, but I'm under a budget right now. Recent words from the dear Mrs. melville: "You spent HOW MUCH for gloves?!?!?!"
Call me Mel. Some years ago- never mind how long precisely- having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me at home, I thought I would ride about a little and see the other parts of the world.
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Re: Timing different from side to side
I thought a worn timing chain was supposed to cause mis-matched timing. At least on BMW wasted spark ignitions. My Triumph has two points, independently adjustable. It's such a pain that I have to brag about it.
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Show her this, and it ought to explain how frugal your glove purchase was:melville wrote:Not even! FirstGear, about $60! Therefore the "fix with parts on hand" theme here.Major Softie wrote:Held?melville wrote:
Rocky Point has it, $200. I'm in favor as a next winter project, but I'm under a budget right now. Recent words from the dear Mrs. melville: "You spent HOW MUCH for gloves?!?!?!"
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http://www.motorworks.co.uk/vlive/Shop/ ... M=20&Ct=IA
Cant remember if they ship to the US, but probably dearer than RP after postage.
Cant remember if they ship to the US, but probably dearer than RP after postage.
Adelaide, Oz. 77 R75/7. 86 R80 G/S PD, 93 R100 GS, 70 BSA B44 VS ,BMW F650 Classic