Am pleased with my recently acquired Classic except for the sprung loaded side stand.
Am 5foot 10inches of normal build but cannot fully extend the side stand with my heal and placing the bikes weight on the stand before dismounting. Would like to retain the stand with the auto retract feature.
Any one else had this problem and if so how did you resolve the problem? Am thinking of welding on a lug but not sure where at the mo.
R100r Classic side stand
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I lean the bike onto the stand to hold it lightly while I reposition my foot to move the stand the rest of the way.
I put my toe on the tang as I start deploying it, then the toe moves to the shaft to get it all the way forward.
Size 10 (44 Euro) boots, I'm 5'8" on a good day.
I put my toe on the tang as I start deploying it, then the toe moves to the shaft to get it all the way forward.
Size 10 (44 Euro) boots, I'm 5'8" on a good day.
Call me Mel. Some years ago- never mind how long precisely- having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me at home, I thought I would ride about a little and see the other parts of the world.
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Tried your technique but still feels precarious and requires further work from me. Looking at some older American forums, who also complained about this feature, an industrious individual manufacture a Surefoot style stand mounted close to the footrest.
Not one of BMW's better ideas mounting the stand further forward on to the engine protection bars.
Not one of BMW's better ideas mounting the stand further forward on to the engine protection bars.
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I never trusted the OE POS crashbar mounted side-stand on my GSPD. I'm 6.0 ft tall so my leg was long enough to deploy the stand safely but I never trusted it (the stand) for strength. All the OE (BMW) side-stands will bend like wet noodles if you heave the bike over far enough to get the wheels in the air. Even just standing up on the pegs to dismount or sitting on the bike with the stand deployed is a no-no. All the after-market alternatives were just as weak and flimsy (not to mention very expensive). I also didn't like how 'tacked-on' and 'chintzy' they all looked.
After watching a few KTM guys pivot their huge fully loaded 1290's around on their side-stands with no qualms, I studied their geometry and dimensions and built (overbuilt?) my own along those lines. The shaft is solid 1” thick aluminum. The other parts are machined from a stainless steel block with the mounting plate 12mm thick. The hardened pivot bolt shaft is (huge) 20mm diameter. Because of the steep-ish angle, less weight is resting on the foot so it doesn’t need a huge base not to sink into the ground or asphalt. By design, it rests parallel to the header pipe when up, so no ground clearance issues when cornering. The only minor drawback is that I had to extend the shifter 'knob' out a bit for boot clearance.
I drew up and plastic printed a few iterations to be sure everything fit before machining the actual parts. I've always had a phobia about forgetting to retract the side-stand after almost dying on a Suz Water Buffalo in the '70's so the pivot point needed a bit experimenting with to be precisely located so the stand (just barely) stays down on its own, but it flips up as soon as the engine is started when not leaning on it. I’m using stock size (but stainless steel) springs. I can now use the stand as a pivot to turn the bike around on the spot, like when you get to the end of a narrow trail and don’t have enough room to do a U-turn. It's also a very good tire de-beader in a pinch, something Migsel insists you not try with his stand.
This sucker is literally un-bendable. It's only been in use now for about 2 years, but so far, no problems.
After watching a few KTM guys pivot their huge fully loaded 1290's around on their side-stands with no qualms, I studied their geometry and dimensions and built (overbuilt?) my own along those lines. The shaft is solid 1” thick aluminum. The other parts are machined from a stainless steel block with the mounting plate 12mm thick. The hardened pivot bolt shaft is (huge) 20mm diameter. Because of the steep-ish angle, less weight is resting on the foot so it doesn’t need a huge base not to sink into the ground or asphalt. By design, it rests parallel to the header pipe when up, so no ground clearance issues when cornering. The only minor drawback is that I had to extend the shifter 'knob' out a bit for boot clearance.
I drew up and plastic printed a few iterations to be sure everything fit before machining the actual parts. I've always had a phobia about forgetting to retract the side-stand after almost dying on a Suz Water Buffalo in the '70's so the pivot point needed a bit experimenting with to be precisely located so the stand (just barely) stays down on its own, but it flips up as soon as the engine is started when not leaning on it. I’m using stock size (but stainless steel) springs. I can now use the stand as a pivot to turn the bike around on the spot, like when you get to the end of a narrow trail and don’t have enough room to do a U-turn. It's also a very good tire de-beader in a pinch, something Migsel insists you not try with his stand.
This sucker is literally un-bendable. It's only been in use now for about 2 years, but so far, no problems.
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My bike was on fire, the road was on fire, and I was on fire.
It was the best ride ever!"
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Very nice. I have a twin shock Surefoot stand. Will see if I can adapt it.
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If all you really need is easier deployment and you don't care about aesthetics you can try something like this:
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My bike was on fire, the road was on fire, and I was on fire.
It was the best ride ever!"
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My bike was on fire, the road was on fire, and I was on fire.
It was the best ride ever!"
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Re: R100r Classic side stand
Looks like the same picture I saw on Snowbum's site.
Kurt
Kurt
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Being a bit on the short side, I also have difficulty in putting out sidestand whilst sat on the bike. I rarely use it as a consequence, preferring the centre stand, the sidestand seems to leave the bike at a crazy angle! Did see this method of deploying the Sidestand whilst still sat on the bike with a pull on a rope! and considered giving it a go but haven’t done so yet.
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