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The Plural of Grief

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:23 am
by melville
Looking at these(sorry, big pix-click to see all):

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Any knowledge out there? I'm kinda itching to polish that big slab of Alu that is the front bit of the frame. :lol:

Re: The Plural of Grief

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:39 pm
by Zombie Master
Looks like the tank is welded to the frame....run away!

Re: The Plural of Grief

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 3:35 pm
by Chuey
Pics of two different bikes and a question that sounds like it's about one bike.

Chuey

Re: The Plural of Grief

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:26 pm
by Sibbo
Villiers 2 stroke, leading link forks ? a cast ally headstock ! ???? No idea ! A special?

Re: The Plural of Grief

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:16 pm
by Garnet
That's an early 60's Grieves. Built in Bristol England I believe. Very popular privateers scrambles machine.

Re: The Plural of Grief

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:28 pm
by Garnet
Actually, it looks like it might be a trials version (right clicky)

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Or you could do this with it.

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Re: The Plural of Grief

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:17 pm
by melville
One (blue tank) is a trials model, the other is a scrambler. 1965ish. Both 250cc Villiers, but different models. Both have Greeves exclusive barrels and heads.

The trials bike has run in the last decade. The scrambler has been silent for quite some time.

I'm waiting for his need to sell and my need to buy to align at a price. We're presently distant. He's about to lose his shop space (selling home) and he'll come to my price eventually.

ZM, the tank appears to have a flange extending out the front, and the weld you see is the body of the tank to the flange, I think.

I have great fantasies of making the scrambler into a Grumph or a Greebsa, but will more likely be doing a slow fix 'n' flip of both bikes.

Re: The Plural of Grief

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:19 pm
by Sibbo
Garnet wrote:That's an early 60's Grieves. Built in Bristol England I believe. Very popular privateers scrambles machine.
Oops ! A blank spot ! Geeves.

Re: The Plural of Grief

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:40 pm
by She'llbe
Garnet wrote:Actually, it looks like it might be a trials version (right clicky)

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Or you could do this with it.

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I see the in the first photo of the Greeves that it doesn't have a headlight but it does have a horn.

Re: The Plural of Grief

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:11 pm
by Major Softie
Greeves was going to be my guess too, but only because it's the only two stroke dirt bike of that period that I'm familiar with that I know had an Earle's fork.

So, is that Villiers before they got sucked up by Norton?